HIV tests shattered in court trial.

[weeandy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_2gvJPU ... e=youtu.be

Here the full report in the link above. It never hit mainstream media . Had the man been convicted , it would have been all over the news ! HIV tests do not diagnose HIV. Fact !

[Earthaly Delights]

There is another test available which looks for the viral load - ie: the amount of the live virus present in a person's blood stream. This test is not widely used because it is far more expensive and takes weeks rather than days for a result to show up.

The standard HIV test looks at the antibodies present in the patient's blood. All this tells us is that this person has at some stage been exposed to HIV and developed an auto immune response to that virus. Research thus far would seem to indicate that many people who are exposed to the virus have been able to suppress its progress. Those who go on to develop full blown AIDS have not been able to do this. It would appear that a raft of underlying health and lifestyle issues, including the history of other sexually transmitted diseases, general health and nutrition are factors in this difference. This is why HIV/AIDS has been so devastating in developing parts of the world.

The viral load test is a far more reliable indicator of how infectious the patient actually is.

I would point out however that not disclosing one's HIV positive status to a prospective sexual partner is an immoral act, as it takes from that person the power to make an informed decision about the risk they are taking. It is not however one which I would say deserves a 37 year gaol sentence. After all, each participant in the sex act had the opportunity to insist on the use of a condom without reference to the HIV status or indeed the general sexual health of the other.

You know condoms also protect against chlamydia, Gonorrhoea, genital warts and syphilis - none of which are pleasant and all of which have life long baggage associated with them.

[weeandy]

This is that very viral load test .

http://molecular.roche.com/assays/Pages ... stv20.aspx

Quote: The COBAS® AmpliPrep/COBAS® TaqMan® HIV-1 Test, v2.0 is not intended for use as a screening test for the presence of HIV-1 in blood or blood products or as a diagnostic test to confirm the presence of HIV-1 infection.
Unquote.

Try doing your research before spouting off beliefs in future.

[weeandy]

As for the antibody tests ,

Take your pick of them , none of them test for HIV . Or antibodies to HIV.

http://www.healtoronto.com/testkits.html

[Thomas]

This is why HIV/AIDS has been so devastating in developing parts of the world.

There is a film called "The Constant Gardner" quite surprised they allowed it about pharmacy (witchcraft) companies devastating parts of Africa. Oh and on the sinns of sex and pharmacy (witchcraft) Native American Indians were a more "developed"

[weeandy]

And as for sex and that mysterious virus nobody has seen , theres this study .

http://www.helpforhiv.com/padian.pdf

You cant pass on something that has never been known to exist.

[weeandy]

Lastly , if you had bothered to listen to the podcast itself , youd have heard a courtroom lawyer explain that the top HIV/AIDS expert for the prosecution admited there are no tests to detect HIV , and that the antibody tests are not licenced to screen for it either. They are protein tests that react to non specific proteins.

Have a nice day in Australia.

[Thomas]

And as for sex and that mysterious virus nobody has seen , theres this study .

http://www.helpforhiv.com/padian.pdf

You cant pass on something that has never been known to exist.

Thanks weeandy for the info, been following it for years mate.

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Whatever it is, I suggest people stop doing what causes it.

[madlookin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_2gvJPU4v0&feature=youtu.be

Here the full report in the link above. It never hit mainstream media . Had the man been convicted , it would have been all over the news ! HIV tests do not diagnose HIV. Fact !

very interesting interview/information

[bodge]

HIV does not turn into AIDS either, I watched a documentary about the doctor who proved that and your right there is no definitive test. The doctor/scientist who said they are not connected was immediately defamed and said to be "losing the plot" really rather quickly. I dont believe fck all they say anymore.