1) I will give you my name upon proof of claim that you have jurisdiction over the pending matter!
2) If there is an obstruction to you performing your duties I assume your duties are preventing any breach of peace!
3) May I offer remedy to the alleged breach of the peace by picking up the piece of paper and disposing of it in a proper manner to the satisfaction of all parties!
4) Immediatley claim common law jurisdiction!
delbertwilkins wrote:Too many `freemen` waste the polices time to- I pay for the police as well, so lets not waste their time with `juristiction` `common law` or any other pointless arguments- and have them out catching real criminals, yeh?
Too many `freemen` waste the polices time to- I pay for the police as well, so lets not waste their time with `juristiction` `common law` or any other pointless arguments- and have them out catching real criminals, yeh?
Too Far Gone wrote:There was also a case where the police spent something like £110,000 to prosecute a woman for eating an apple while driving. This resulted in something like a 60 quid fine. Yea, money well spent.
delbertwilkins wrote:Another prime example why you just do not argue with the policy officers (enforcers).
They have procedures (acts and statutes) to follow to allow the policy officer to his duty.
No amount of refusing to give your name/detail/identify-yourself will make the policy officers stop and go away, they do not understand law- only acts and statutes which is all they need to operate.
Whether or not it is `lawful` to demand your identify isn't the point- if you look at other examples of people refusing to give their name, they end up arrested and a night in the cell.
Is this what we want?
Who is giving out the advice, that one should refuse to identify themselves or give `their` name to a policy officer when requested?
Always state you are identifying yourself or signing a ticker under duress, at least if you want to have any chance to have the `ticket` discharged.
Once you sign a ticket, what right have you to complain afterwards when you didn't make it known, at the time, you were being coerced and threatened (under duress) into signing.
Always, ALWAYS build a foundation of defence DURING the interaction of an event, not after.
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