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Re: Court Summons.

Postby umbongo82 » Mon May 21, 2012 3:43 pm

ForestNymph wrote:Ok so one dictionary states that as the meaning,one dictionary,but for you to post that what one person assumes is their belief,is wrong,is rather rude,are they/we not entitled to an opinion,even if it differs from what YOU believe.It could just as easily be suggested that YOU are wrong in your interpretation of what constitutes a !law" could it not?
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Hmmm not really, I was offering facts as oppose to opinions. Like I say, good luck to the fella but if they're in anyway planning to fight legal battles with that stance, they're doomed.
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Re: Court Summons.

Postby legaleagle » Mon May 21, 2012 4:06 pm

Hi all I have some time to myself at work so thought I would answer some of your quires. I am as I think I have mentioned in at least one of my posts (if not I apologise I write so much everyday) a barrister (not a solicitor NEVER CALL ME A SOLICITOR!!! :D :D ) now I know that this means that many of you will hate me now and that makes me sad but it is unfortunately the case. I would go into the role of a barrister but I am concerned that this will totally change this thread so I will when I get time write a new thread in the general forum about me so everyone can put their view and say what they like (if anyone wants to start this so it can get started feel free.) Now to some of the questions raised.

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The first duty of any legal representative (barrister/solicitor) is to their client. This is enshrined in law and their are severe penalties for breaking this. There is a duty solicitor at court to offer legal advice (again enshrined in law) and to arrange for legal representation if necessary (you would be amazed at how many people turn up and haven't thought about it.) Duty solicitors and those on the defence team DO NOT get involved with anything to do with prosecuting people or the disposal (sounds so nice)of those convicted. If this were necessary then their are more then enough legal people there on the prosecutions team.

You are certainly correct to say that you do not have to have a solicitor/barrister and many people do represent themselves very successfully, just as you are correct to say that there is a remedy in statutes if you take the time to look (this is what I have said many times). My point was addressed to those who think they can send a statement to court and not turn up thinking that this will work. It won't as it is in effect a one sided argument.
I agree whole heartedly that paperwork and evidence is vital but I stand by what I said that if any statements are used they must be spoken in court to be admitted unless both sides agree to the content. This is so that both sides can question it. And if the person does not turn up then unless it has been excepted by the other side there statement will not be admitted.This of course works wether they are a prosecution or defence witness. Obviously it goes without saying that if you have had no notification or summons then you can contest the charge.

I do however have a question. Where is it that it is written that statutes and legislation are not laws? or is this personal opinion.
Just to be vey clear and transparent, this information is widely available to those who are not in the legal profession and I am not telling you anything you could not (and most likely have) found out for yourself.
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Re: Court Summons.

Postby umbongo82 » Mon May 21, 2012 4:26 pm

legaleagle wrote:Where is it that it is written that statutes and legislation are not laws? or is this personal opinion.


This is a belief I have found of many people on this site and I would be interested in an answer to this, along with how they've come to that opinion (references, precedent etc).
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Re: Court Summons.

Postby frogmanbrabs » Mon May 21, 2012 4:37 pm

Ok then Legaleagle I could also say where does it state that I have to abide by statutes and acts or in fact any laws, and where does it state that I am a member of society or the United Kingdom Corporation? These are all assumptions.
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Re: Court Summons.

Postby umbongo82 » Mon May 21, 2012 4:44 pm

frogmanbrabs wrote:Ok then Legaleagle I could also say where does it state that I have to abide by statutes and acts or in fact any laws, and where does it state that I am a member of society or the United Kingdom Corporation? These are all assumptions.


What is the United Kingdom Corporation?
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Re: Court Summons.

Postby frogmanbrabs » Mon May 21, 2012 4:57 pm

UNITED KINGDOM CORPORATION LTD Company number 05853448 on Company House & Dunn & Bradsheet.
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Re: Court Summons.

Postby umbongo82 » Mon May 21, 2012 5:00 pm

frogmanbrabs wrote:UNITED KINGDOM CORPORATION LTD Company number 05853448 on Company House & Dunn & Bradsheet.


Go to Companies House please and type that number or that company name, in fact I'll save you the bother- it doesn't exist anymore. There's a shocker.

Incorporated: 21/06/2006
Dissolved: 12/02/2008

No accounts ever filed and was up for strike off 03/09/2007. Bogus.
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Re: Court Summons.

Postby legaleagle » Mon May 21, 2012 5:19 pm

Forestnymph Ok I have never had to sign anything in relation to sending anyone to prison. I have never acted as a magistrate (there are always three if they are lay magistrates) so it is entirely possible that they have to sign. There is certainly a lot of paperwork in relation to everything including signing a prisoner from the court to the prison transport then again signing them over to the prison so it is possible that this is what you are referring too. I don't know for certain however.
Just to be vey clear and transparent, this information is widely available to those who are not in the legal profession and I am not telling you anything you could not (and most likely have) found out for yourself.
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Re: Court Summons.

Postby chris_m » Sat May 26, 2012 11:05 pm

Well as an update here, I was due in court on the 24th which I didn't attend. Well how could I have attended, I knew nothing what so ever about it as I didn't receive a summons :)
I wonder how long it will take before I hear from them about this. I'm no longer worried about this anymore. I may be a little nervous if I do end up in court as I will have to acknowledge the next letter but I am going to stick to my guns on this one and won't pay out 1 penny even if they do threaten to jail me.
Thanks for all the help and advice up to now.

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