Introduction.
This is just a bit of fun! A story taken from an alternative perspective so it is not with intent, it is only with imagination that I see this.
The last Christ came into the world as just a child, yet even as an infant he fell onto the radar of the king makers. Visited by the three wise souls who took the measure of the moment, prophecy dictated their every gauge.
Prophecy, a curiosity to say the least. The notion that the future has already come to pass, not really, more about the few that are able to divine the narrative is an easier way to define it.
Then again there is an alternative to the whole understanding of what prophecy can actually mean.
The nature of prophecy is the reasoning behind it. There is always an agenda, there is always a solution to a problem, there are always those who benefit as there will be those who don't. A double edge sword, a dual aspect is always in hand.
The circle of life plays a significant part in all that we see. The saying the 'the truth will set you free' should be in the present day be more of 'the truth should come with a straight jacket' as the more truth you become exposed too the crazier this world starts to look.
Life itself is a closed loop, from the small nuclear to the large we see it in practice. Every thing is naturally dictated too, is governed, is balanced through polarity, polarised! As is above so is below, the dual aspects we find in nature we try to unify through conscious effort. There is a science to religion as there is a religion to science, it is what it is, as what will be will be.
What goes around comes around, the cycle of life is here to teach us the lessons that are needed in order to appreciate, in order to understand, in order to respect as to lead us to a position of authority. To be the governors of the natural, our nature first has to recognise the reality in which we play amongst all that is. We need to experience first hand so it remains within us as to understand what is needed when it is needed.
When nature reaches a crossroads, mankind is right there in the thick of it. We are bound by the very same laws, the very same forces, the difference being we can sometimes turn the odds in our favour, sometimes!
When we find ourselves in these times, the crossroads allow us direction, not necessarily giving us a choice in which way we may turn, more over we are able to see the path ahead and therefore what lays before us. The trials and tribulations, the very expectations, we have the chance to buckle up in order to see the coming times through.
So what if you where privy to understanding just how and when these crossroads would arise? What if you really had a window into the future, how would you use that information. Of course this would be a very powerful tool, with great power comes great responsibility as we all know.
You see I love wisdom, when, where ever I find it I just gravitate towards it, for me it is like a drug, in hindsight I sometimes find it isn't always benevolent, fore sure malevolence is more over a consequence of my innocence, my ignorance! Yet wisdom always gets me, like a moth to a flame.
Jesus, the last Christ, born a man, lived as a man, died as a man, raised as a Christ, given rise to a whole new religion, a new opportunity, a new perspective, a new potential for a new world? All this just a natural progression? All this just happen by chance?
Remember, he was visited right at the off by those who not only regard themselves as the king makers but also refer to themselves as that very body of a brotherhood, the king makers!
Do these guys also posses the potential not only to make kings but also create the religions that proceed and follow. The religions that rely on prophecy, in order to profit from the prophet? Remember, 'with great power comes great responsibility'!
Jesus, in the eyes of the Jews made two, at least two mistakes, he messed with the money men, then played around with the prophecies that surrounded him. He denied one regime, denounced another, rebelled on all counts, yet gave rise to a whole new way of governance. A miracle in itself that he even got recognised, let alone became the most famous name in history, truly a miracle, truly a messiah, truly the son of the greatest architect ever.
Was he actually the manufactured Christ? The result of a thousand years design? Brought into play at a critical moment in time, just in time to set precedence for when the next set of crossroads are to appear? Any one see the signs? Can you read the prophetic words/symbols of the times? Are these the times of which the last book in the last testament speaks of?
If so what of the next Christ? Is he/she already among us? Are those who are fervent that it will be the very same Jesus who returns or is it as those who are less literal and more agnostic who say the next Christ will be just another man/women, who will come to pass? Who will hold true? Will they compound the foundations in which a new world will forge a new way of existence?
The nature of the prophecies dictate a man, the last book in itself is a manual in how to create this very person, as long as the next Christ full-fills all the criteria of what has been passed down as prophecy in that very text we could have a Christ already among us.
As it speaks, there will be many false prophets, many who call themselves Christ yet there can be only one! Sound familiar?
The current king makers have been given an instruction manual in which it would have to be a textbook operation in order to manufacture the next Christ. To the letter would those who are part of the process have to work! So it would be beneficial to set out a programme to which these individuals can work with in order to create the next manufactured Christ.
Do you have your own personal Jesus?
From the Magi to the Masons does this knowledge pass, in which it will come to pass! It is what it is, they are who they are, the art of the craft can be found in the crafting of the art, you just have too look in order to see it, the secret is there is no secret, its all out there for you to see it if you care enough to look.
Do you care enough? Can you see it? Have you looked?
As is above, so is below!
Remember, just a bit of fun, this is just my own perspective, no offence meant in any way, shape or form.
Cheers, Andy.
Another Christ thing.....
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Another Christ thing.....
by Holypoo » Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:44 pm
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Re: Another Christ thing.....
by Holypoo » Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:59 pm
The premiss.
What follows is a fictional account of how I see the life of what might be considered as the next Christ. It will be purely fictional, of course, as it is just a story but one I find intriguing to say the least. So it is with this in mind I would like to tell my story.
Everything from here on in is pure imagination but if you feel any of the following might be better portrayed/relayed, feel free to add your input, oh and thanks for reading, cheers Andy.
I'll start by saying that I am to take the role of the Christ, so that would make me the Andy Christ. It is just role play so you might say this is method, I like to think of it as more of a model but please don't take any of this as factual.
The current state of play is with the Freemasons. My understanding is purely observational, meaning as it will be obvious to those who are in the know that I am not! So please I am only playing with what I see, there is no reality, to me it is just fiction.
To set the story on track I’ll start with those nine guys who we know as Templar. These guys found themselves on the Temple Mount, you could say a strange predicament for the times, yet they were aloud to remain there for nine years doing what? Some say excavating, I say something else.
For me, it makes more sense to say these guys were chosen, chosen by the Magi. The Magi knew that the next stage of the worlds evolution meant that the king makers needed to evolve. A shift in power meant a shift in location as the source of the blood line had already been effected over a thousand years hence.
What these nine guys represented was the opportunity to move the dynamics into the new world, the world in which the game of kings would lead, the next time a Christ would be needed dictated this very reason a bridge was created.
So for nine years, nine guys were schooled in the art, the craft, the necessary tools to continue the protection of the bloodline passed from east to west, following not just the bloodline but the line of power in which the brotherhood would continue to play its part.
They had their mandate, they knew what had to be done as and when the times dictated, their mission, their agenda became set in stone.
In 1303 they created the opportunity to take the next step as to the evolution of the brotherhood as the times ahead dictated that a new system of governance would start to emerge.
1303 we find that the Scottish needed help in the war with the English. In step the only mercenaries who can get the job done, the Templar. Did they orchestrate this situation? Who knows, the only thing we do know is that they did what they were recruited to do, their reward safe ground, sanctuary.
Shortly after they dissolved into lore. Yet in the following years a new brotherhood came into play, the Masons.
From there to now the brotherhood expanded as and when they found reason, always governed, always ready to take opportunity and capitalise on it. As with all the brotherhoods before, they work on a need to know basis. From top to bottom, you only know what you need to know, keeps things simple, keeps secrets just that, secret.
Mastering the mysteries of what man represents is the foundations that set the apprentice on his journey. A progression of degrees being the order of business. To become a master of the first instance is resolved in three degrees of separation, after a good man is made better it his own making from there on in. Another 30 degrees of separation lay ahead, not for all to pursue, only the few will take that journey.
The reward of that journey is achieved with the 32nd degree. Here the secret of what the orders agenda truly is is shared. A curious sign of this degree is the award of the mark upon the apron of XXXII, why for generations has it always been this date? 2012? obviously a year of great importance on the calendar of the king makers!
And here we are, the year 2012, is this to be the year of the secret? Will the secret be shown for all to see? For me the curiosity is killing me.
So for the next part I’ll take up the story of a Christ. One of those unfortunate souls that has had to live the life that has been dictated, not so much lived in the traditional sense of free will, more of a life of entrapment! As we speak there must be thousands of souls out there who have been put through the programme. So many families with there own personal Christ, sacrificial lambs, some called alters, some known as fools, jesters, whatever labels they are a product of one sort or another.
Next I bring you the mind of a modern day Christ!
What follows is a fictional account of how I see the life of what might be considered as the next Christ. It will be purely fictional, of course, as it is just a story but one I find intriguing to say the least. So it is with this in mind I would like to tell my story.
Everything from here on in is pure imagination but if you feel any of the following might be better portrayed/relayed, feel free to add your input, oh and thanks for reading, cheers Andy.
I'll start by saying that I am to take the role of the Christ, so that would make me the Andy Christ. It is just role play so you might say this is method, I like to think of it as more of a model but please don't take any of this as factual.
The current state of play is with the Freemasons. My understanding is purely observational, meaning as it will be obvious to those who are in the know that I am not! So please I am only playing with what I see, there is no reality, to me it is just fiction.
To set the story on track I’ll start with those nine guys who we know as Templar. These guys found themselves on the Temple Mount, you could say a strange predicament for the times, yet they were aloud to remain there for nine years doing what? Some say excavating, I say something else.
For me, it makes more sense to say these guys were chosen, chosen by the Magi. The Magi knew that the next stage of the worlds evolution meant that the king makers needed to evolve. A shift in power meant a shift in location as the source of the blood line had already been effected over a thousand years hence.
What these nine guys represented was the opportunity to move the dynamics into the new world, the world in which the game of kings would lead, the next time a Christ would be needed dictated this very reason a bridge was created.
So for nine years, nine guys were schooled in the art, the craft, the necessary tools to continue the protection of the bloodline passed from east to west, following not just the bloodline but the line of power in which the brotherhood would continue to play its part.
They had their mandate, they knew what had to be done as and when the times dictated, their mission, their agenda became set in stone.
In 1303 they created the opportunity to take the next step as to the evolution of the brotherhood as the times ahead dictated that a new system of governance would start to emerge.
1303 we find that the Scottish needed help in the war with the English. In step the only mercenaries who can get the job done, the Templar. Did they orchestrate this situation? Who knows, the only thing we do know is that they did what they were recruited to do, their reward safe ground, sanctuary.
Shortly after they dissolved into lore. Yet in the following years a new brotherhood came into play, the Masons.
From there to now the brotherhood expanded as and when they found reason, always governed, always ready to take opportunity and capitalise on it. As with all the brotherhoods before, they work on a need to know basis. From top to bottom, you only know what you need to know, keeps things simple, keeps secrets just that, secret.
Mastering the mysteries of what man represents is the foundations that set the apprentice on his journey. A progression of degrees being the order of business. To become a master of the first instance is resolved in three degrees of separation, after a good man is made better it his own making from there on in. Another 30 degrees of separation lay ahead, not for all to pursue, only the few will take that journey.
The reward of that journey is achieved with the 32nd degree. Here the secret of what the orders agenda truly is is shared. A curious sign of this degree is the award of the mark upon the apron of XXXII, why for generations has it always been this date? 2012? obviously a year of great importance on the calendar of the king makers!
And here we are, the year 2012, is this to be the year of the secret? Will the secret be shown for all to see? For me the curiosity is killing me.
So for the next part I’ll take up the story of a Christ. One of those unfortunate souls that has had to live the life that has been dictated, not so much lived in the traditional sense of free will, more of a life of entrapment! As we speak there must be thousands of souls out there who have been put through the programme. So many families with there own personal Christ, sacrificial lambs, some called alters, some known as fools, jesters, whatever labels they are a product of one sort or another.
Next I bring you the mind of a modern day Christ!
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Re: Another Christ thing.....
by Holypoo » Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:02 pm
Hi, as you know my name is Andy, the next question would be why do I consider my self a Christ, well my life dictates it! Simple really! Obviously I need to elaborate so bare with me as I’ll try to bring you up to speed.
My whole life I’ve been surrounded by people of the persuasion that can only be described as curious, for me that is, those who have played a part in my life I now see it as just that, they played their part. Family, friends, even acquaintances, they all knew me too well to say the least, yet I had to live a life that followed an agenda, this obviously comes in hindsight but it is what it is.
When you've lived the life I’ve lived you reach a point where it starts to become apparent, if not then it becomes a forced issue! In truth, it gets rammed down your proverbial throat. Sense and sensibility is only for me, yet I’ll try to give myself credence by setting out how it was made apparent to me.
Might as well start at my beginning, only makes sense.
I was born in the year 1969, 10th of July, at 6pm. Why am I being so direct, well the brotherhood as I like to refer to them, are not what you'd call backward in coming forward. What I mean is they like to make grand statements. When they do something that is of meaning they really like to push the bout out.
So this is how they decided to let me know who and what I am. After years of being pushed from pillar to post I found myself pretty much right back where I started, my birth place, this I’ll keep to myself but for the record it is in the north of England.
Once I arrived back here the truth of who and what I am began to filter through the ether you might say. As these guys, the brotherhood like to work in mysterious ways, they take the esoteric very seriously, very seriously indeed. So through this medium they began to make me aware that not all is as simple as one my think when it comes to understanding this world in which we live.
For all this to happen, I had to be made immobile, a stationary object in which they could concentrate their efforts you might say. They first made me aware of their abilities in how they are able to use their craft and without a doubt it caught me a little off guard but I stood fast and as I have been conditioned I took it in my stride.
After a while, you might call them attacks, I see them as trials, once I got the measure they then proceeded to enlighten me as to who and what I might be.
Get this. As you may be aware, the brotherhood are into everything and I mean everything. Politics, religion, media, every conceivable corner of society they can be found. So guess how they thought it would be prudent to start? Obviously with them, obviously!
So I got their story, from beginning to end, no real detail just the premiss, trust me, more than enough but this is how it went.
You remember the year 1303, well take the year 1969 and subtract 1303, you get it, then think how I felt waking up from a weird dream with that in mind. Without any time to digest I was then plagued with the idea of a film, Rosemary's baby! The next thing I know it is playing the very same week?
I watched it, who wouldn't. In the film it is all laid out how they practice their craft and what not yet that wasn't what caught my attention, in the film the child is born on the 10th of July and rosemary decides to call him Andy! It doesn't end there, there are several other films with great references to that same date and similar references to my name but I will let that go for now.
Then comes the age of Aquarius. This next bit of revelation I found amusing. The brotherhood don't do things by half so with no avail how do you think they celebrated the birth of their messiah? We are talking 1969 here, one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind! You got it, they acquired the moon! Hows that for credence?
Sounding crazy? It is what it is!
We all know these guys work on a different calender than the usual, they really are a law unto themselves.
So that is my beginning, from there it is just text book, simple adherence to the programme that is set out in the final chapter of the greatest selling book of all time. Trust me I have lived it to the letter!
My guess is that most of those involved had little to no idea that anyone singled out as lamb, alter, fool and so on are just being allowed to practice their craft on said individuals, never really knowing what might be. They are pre programmed to the idea that what they are doing is for the greater good regardless of these individuals, we to them are just test subjects, nothing more, nothing less.
My whole life I’ve been surrounded by people of the persuasion that can only be described as curious, for me that is, those who have played a part in my life I now see it as just that, they played their part. Family, friends, even acquaintances, they all knew me too well to say the least, yet I had to live a life that followed an agenda, this obviously comes in hindsight but it is what it is.
When you've lived the life I’ve lived you reach a point where it starts to become apparent, if not then it becomes a forced issue! In truth, it gets rammed down your proverbial throat. Sense and sensibility is only for me, yet I’ll try to give myself credence by setting out how it was made apparent to me.
Might as well start at my beginning, only makes sense.
I was born in the year 1969, 10th of July, at 6pm. Why am I being so direct, well the brotherhood as I like to refer to them, are not what you'd call backward in coming forward. What I mean is they like to make grand statements. When they do something that is of meaning they really like to push the bout out.
So this is how they decided to let me know who and what I am. After years of being pushed from pillar to post I found myself pretty much right back where I started, my birth place, this I’ll keep to myself but for the record it is in the north of England.
Once I arrived back here the truth of who and what I am began to filter through the ether you might say. As these guys, the brotherhood like to work in mysterious ways, they take the esoteric very seriously, very seriously indeed. So through this medium they began to make me aware that not all is as simple as one my think when it comes to understanding this world in which we live.
For all this to happen, I had to be made immobile, a stationary object in which they could concentrate their efforts you might say. They first made me aware of their abilities in how they are able to use their craft and without a doubt it caught me a little off guard but I stood fast and as I have been conditioned I took it in my stride.
After a while, you might call them attacks, I see them as trials, once I got the measure they then proceeded to enlighten me as to who and what I might be.
Get this. As you may be aware, the brotherhood are into everything and I mean everything. Politics, religion, media, every conceivable corner of society they can be found. So guess how they thought it would be prudent to start? Obviously with them, obviously!
So I got their story, from beginning to end, no real detail just the premiss, trust me, more than enough but this is how it went.
You remember the year 1303, well take the year 1969 and subtract 1303, you get it, then think how I felt waking up from a weird dream with that in mind. Without any time to digest I was then plagued with the idea of a film, Rosemary's baby! The next thing I know it is playing the very same week?
I watched it, who wouldn't. In the film it is all laid out how they practice their craft and what not yet that wasn't what caught my attention, in the film the child is born on the 10th of July and rosemary decides to call him Andy! It doesn't end there, there are several other films with great references to that same date and similar references to my name but I will let that go for now.
Then comes the age of Aquarius. This next bit of revelation I found amusing. The brotherhood don't do things by half so with no avail how do you think they celebrated the birth of their messiah? We are talking 1969 here, one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind! You got it, they acquired the moon! Hows that for credence?
Sounding crazy? It is what it is!
We all know these guys work on a different calender than the usual, they really are a law unto themselves.
So that is my beginning, from there it is just text book, simple adherence to the programme that is set out in the final chapter of the greatest selling book of all time. Trust me I have lived it to the letter!
My guess is that most of those involved had little to no idea that anyone singled out as lamb, alter, fool and so on are just being allowed to practice their craft on said individuals, never really knowing what might be. They are pre programmed to the idea that what they are doing is for the greater good regardless of these individuals, we to them are just test subjects, nothing more, nothing less.
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Re: Another Christ thing.....
by Holypoo » Fri May 04, 2012 5:17 am
So what is the reality of being a subject? In reality, once you are a subject just what is it you become a subject of? The reality being we would all like to think we can tame the lion. Take a lion, make it then be a lamb!
There is an art to the craft, the craft is an art in itself. Problem is, once the oath has been taken, the beliefs of what you were now are are overtaken by what you might be. Taking a good man, making him better the question has to be what where you good at, how can you be made better?
King makers are not so much the makers of kings more the wanting to be a part of the process! Once the understanding of how this world is crafted, you then understand it is simple to be a small cog in a larger mechanism. Cognition then takes a new relevance to ones stance, it isn't always the best thing to stand alone!
The wisdom of one will always be out measured by the wisdom of two and so on, That is wisdom! Or is it? They say a genius can never be taught as that is what makes a genius! Then you can then amass all the wisdom in the world yet it will still learn something new from the genius, the geni!
To become a subject, for me is a privilege, an honour. Now I’m able to marry hindsight with insight it gives me foresight. Setting that aside for now, realising hindsight I can see my fortitude, my own innocence was what was capitalised on. Those gifted with the fortitude of understanding took my association and they capitalised on it! Just by having me in their midst gave them the advantage!
A lucky charm you might say. That is all I represented at the time, yet when time moved on so did I!
Ordinarily we Christ’s if left to our own mechanisms we are profound to say the least. We will be successful regardless, take that away from us, take it for your own, you then have a winning formula! Why should one benefit when many can share in the warrant! Share and share alike!
The craft enables those who are less to profit from those who are more! Take a natural king by natural design and make him a subject, a poorer man, then take those who are less and make them kings. One natural king can then make several less than natural kings, a political realm is enhanced!
The question that now should be broached is that of what did the natural king possess? What would his contribution to mankind of been? What would his design of been?
A Christ only shows up on the radar as and when he is needed so what, why would the king makers strip a natural king of his essence?
To become the subject of so many, for so long had me in a spin, yet like any vortex, I create my own gravity! Doesn't really matter how much they take, I always remain more! They are less, I AM more! Their weakness is my strength, my strength is their weakness!
Truth is in it's making, the making of a truth can only be measured once the truth is realised! Once the lie has been seen, then the scene for what is to be seen can be realised! So many lies are now being seen, so many truths are about to be realised!
So I find myself in the company of truth seekers, reasoners, rationale, wanter's? Lots of exposiants, lots of realist's, lots of reasons why! And now for once answers to so many wrongs being offered, the reality of legality being realised. Thank GOD! GOD, I use the word in the sense, not of majesty but of what it means to me! GOD, take the G, that means Gift, the O means Of, and the D means Divinity.
The gift of divinity is not a religious statement more of a language assessment. The reason why the English language has evolved to what it is is because it removes emotion. The provocative that notion evokes emotion lies in the language of those who are limited to expression. Not like those who possess the language that needs little too no expression, English!
The basis of all lore, the reason for all law!
We who would be kings know why kings are kings, and why those who are made kings should not!
The lore of law is a simple mandate it is always apparent why law becomes lore, vice then becomes versa!
The maker of kings should be left to those who are to be subject to that king, heritage and legacy should be to those who carry not a name but that of a calling! A king should and always be subject, that is the nature of a natural king!
Moving on!
There is an art to the craft, the craft is an art in itself. Problem is, once the oath has been taken, the beliefs of what you were now are are overtaken by what you might be. Taking a good man, making him better the question has to be what where you good at, how can you be made better?
King makers are not so much the makers of kings more the wanting to be a part of the process! Once the understanding of how this world is crafted, you then understand it is simple to be a small cog in a larger mechanism. Cognition then takes a new relevance to ones stance, it isn't always the best thing to stand alone!
The wisdom of one will always be out measured by the wisdom of two and so on, That is wisdom! Or is it? They say a genius can never be taught as that is what makes a genius! Then you can then amass all the wisdom in the world yet it will still learn something new from the genius, the geni!
To become a subject, for me is a privilege, an honour. Now I’m able to marry hindsight with insight it gives me foresight. Setting that aside for now, realising hindsight I can see my fortitude, my own innocence was what was capitalised on. Those gifted with the fortitude of understanding took my association and they capitalised on it! Just by having me in their midst gave them the advantage!
A lucky charm you might say. That is all I represented at the time, yet when time moved on so did I!
Ordinarily we Christ’s if left to our own mechanisms we are profound to say the least. We will be successful regardless, take that away from us, take it for your own, you then have a winning formula! Why should one benefit when many can share in the warrant! Share and share alike!
The craft enables those who are less to profit from those who are more! Take a natural king by natural design and make him a subject, a poorer man, then take those who are less and make them kings. One natural king can then make several less than natural kings, a political realm is enhanced!
The question that now should be broached is that of what did the natural king possess? What would his contribution to mankind of been? What would his design of been?
A Christ only shows up on the radar as and when he is needed so what, why would the king makers strip a natural king of his essence?
To become the subject of so many, for so long had me in a spin, yet like any vortex, I create my own gravity! Doesn't really matter how much they take, I always remain more! They are less, I AM more! Their weakness is my strength, my strength is their weakness!
Truth is in it's making, the making of a truth can only be measured once the truth is realised! Once the lie has been seen, then the scene for what is to be seen can be realised! So many lies are now being seen, so many truths are about to be realised!
So I find myself in the company of truth seekers, reasoners, rationale, wanter's? Lots of exposiants, lots of realist's, lots of reasons why! And now for once answers to so many wrongs being offered, the reality of legality being realised. Thank GOD! GOD, I use the word in the sense, not of majesty but of what it means to me! GOD, take the G, that means Gift, the O means Of, and the D means Divinity.
The gift of divinity is not a religious statement more of a language assessment. The reason why the English language has evolved to what it is is because it removes emotion. The provocative that notion evokes emotion lies in the language of those who are limited to expression. Not like those who possess the language that needs little too no expression, English!
The basis of all lore, the reason for all law!
We who would be kings know why kings are kings, and why those who are made kings should not!
The lore of law is a simple mandate it is always apparent why law becomes lore, vice then becomes versa!
The maker of kings should be left to those who are to be subject to that king, heritage and legacy should be to those who carry not a name but that of a calling! A king should and always be subject, that is the nature of a natural king!
Moving on!
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Re: Another Christ thing.....
by Holypoo » Fri May 18, 2012 5:33 am
A time for indulgence, a time for me! For me my life has been a humbling experience to say anything less would subtract from those involved.
Ego set aside, I as it my seem may have portrayed an ego, truly when truth and honesty haven't really played a part in one's life, it does take a marrying of more than a few components to really put things in to prospective!
Humility is, one might say, is just a piece of the pie, then I have truly feasted! I was never indulged with true friendship. Hindsight, insight, foresight, who cares? The people who posed as friends, they had something to gain! When friendship is put to question is that not what friendship is?
Then as a child, innocence gave me credence, gave me fortitude, gave me solace! Being more than those who would be friends, it would take just a moment to break that! That is innocence, that is being a child, learning to take a measure wasn't my way, more those who found me.
From the play ground to the plaything, that is how I found myself. Didn't really take long to whom I should subject myself too. Saying that, it did take a while to understand the why animals and children thing? Growing up is a consequence, yet when you are caught in the eyes of those who are innocent, you see what it is you have in common. I am a natural resultant of what nature requires as and when!
Yet man requires the same as and when it fucks up! Then we can see a parallel between the two as and when required! Nature and nurture really are one in the same when it comes to key components. Being a key component takes oneself to a whole new level.
Seeing what man can do, seeing what nature has intent, understanding why man would try to revolt is an enduring resolute.
You see to question man's resolute, is to question man's resolve. To answer man's question is to question man itself. My indulgence is why question? , man himself has the answer!
Only those who who seek to change man himself seek to go to a higher resolve! Those who seek a higher resolve are obviously of a lesser nature!
No man can hold in one hand, no microscope can see it in a glance! Evolution is but a fragment of what true destiny is! We evolve regardless of what man dictates! What dictates is we who are more are bound by we who are less!
My indulgence being, they are more scared of us as we are more scared of them! If my life has given me one thing the one thing it has given me is a simple resolve, man is less when dictated to by those who are less, man can only become more when exposed to those who are more!
Lessons to be learned, one, two three!
Ego set aside, I as it my seem may have portrayed an ego, truly when truth and honesty haven't really played a part in one's life, it does take a marrying of more than a few components to really put things in to prospective!
Humility is, one might say, is just a piece of the pie, then I have truly feasted! I was never indulged with true friendship. Hindsight, insight, foresight, who cares? The people who posed as friends, they had something to gain! When friendship is put to question is that not what friendship is?
Then as a child, innocence gave me credence, gave me fortitude, gave me solace! Being more than those who would be friends, it would take just a moment to break that! That is innocence, that is being a child, learning to take a measure wasn't my way, more those who found me.
From the play ground to the plaything, that is how I found myself. Didn't really take long to whom I should subject myself too. Saying that, it did take a while to understand the why animals and children thing? Growing up is a consequence, yet when you are caught in the eyes of those who are innocent, you see what it is you have in common. I am a natural resultant of what nature requires as and when!
Yet man requires the same as and when it fucks up! Then we can see a parallel between the two as and when required! Nature and nurture really are one in the same when it comes to key components. Being a key component takes oneself to a whole new level.
Seeing what man can do, seeing what nature has intent, understanding why man would try to revolt is an enduring resolute.
You see to question man's resolute, is to question man's resolve. To answer man's question is to question man itself. My indulgence is why question? , man himself has the answer!
Only those who who seek to change man himself seek to go to a higher resolve! Those who seek a higher resolve are obviously of a lesser nature!
No man can hold in one hand, no microscope can see it in a glance! Evolution is but a fragment of what true destiny is! We evolve regardless of what man dictates! What dictates is we who are more are bound by we who are less!
My indulgence being, they are more scared of us as we are more scared of them! If my life has given me one thing the one thing it has given me is a simple resolve, man is less when dictated to by those who are less, man can only become more when exposed to those who are more!
Lessons to be learned, one, two three!
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Re: Another Christ thing.....
by Holypoo » Fri May 18, 2012 6:00 am
When ever I embark on self indulgence, the powers that be take note, one of three outcomes then ensue. I either am reprimanded, taken to a form of punishment, taken to task or put in my place, for this I have been all three which is a first!
To speak freely isn't something I am usually persuaded to do yet in this case I seem to be pushing a milestone not a millstone.
The truth be known, many times I have tried to reach out through all kinds of mediums yet always been reprimanded for what might seem as little to no real out burst, still when testing the waters I have always been restricted as the powers that be hit me full force!
My question is then why now, why let me speak without constriction, I know guidance is always at hand but why now?
Who cares! Freedom to speak and what a lot I have to tell. Those who have studied the esoteric yet have never been indulged by it must be at a loss when trying to understand it, yet those who exposed to it feel the same. Ones man loss is another man's gain so who is at a loss and who is to gain?
For me it is simple, I’d rather be one who is not touched by the esoteric thus being a freeman from that that is outside of oneself, rather than being one who is constantly being dictated to by that that is outside of oneself having constantly to live in accordance to it!
Saying that, after enough trials and retribution, once measures have been accounted for, once you accept that there are consequences you learn to accept them for what they are, only then does the sense and sensibility see you through.
You see, taking a measure of oneself is ego at worst, the truth being we can only truly be measured by those who can make a measure. Only the deluded, only those who are taken by the ego measure themselves. I believe isn't always the best way to start your beliefs!
So where to start? For me it really is so easy but to put it into, what? Lay man's terms, I know that would be condescending to say the least, yet it would take me to ask a big ask for you to start where I could begin. To take you to the beginning would be asking you too much, trust me, it really is a big ask!
Okay, I have been at this point for days trying to realise what, where and when? Every time I have tried to start to explain words just start to fail me, the easiest way to explain is to give you a few alternatives. What I mean is, history as you have been given isn't for me the same given!
Try this, being of the esoteric you have to understand that what you have been taught might, and that is a big might, not really be the whole truth as the reality of truth might be a little disturbing for most.
So let us take the what history dictates as being the dark ages. The dark ages began when the silk road was realised, once realised the passage of many attributes came to passage. In that you would have to agree that equally some good things would be realised as some bad things.
Knowing where the silk road lay, it isn't a stretch to understand that we are talking about what is now known as the road to the poppy is one in the same. They called it the black death, the dark years ensued! Born out of this a plague? What would you expect from a introduction to such a debilitating component? Nothing less than a dark age?
Being a component of the Christ rationale I am exposed to so many of what man would prefer man to realise but being outside of the exponent that is man I am struck dumb at how so much is lost within man to see what is being reported as truth as to what truth actually is!
I see the world both from the bottom up as to the top down, polarity is my only freedom, my only curse!
When I became aware of the two books then I became concerned, very concerned!
The lore of law is set, no stone be upturned, no stone need be harmed, as it is engraved within in us all what man is, more over what woman is! The books that pass through the ages dictate the law of lore, the lore that than becomes law is then set by the age of man!
The weakness of man will be set not in stone but in his willingness to override natures design, a designation man has little to no true assignation! For they lay with woman not with men!
Man's battle is with man himself, woman's battle is with life alone, a battle made more difficult thus a cult must be more about difference than simple indifference!
From eugenics to genetics, one in the same yet one moves from dream to reality!
To speak freely isn't something I am usually persuaded to do yet in this case I seem to be pushing a milestone not a millstone.
The truth be known, many times I have tried to reach out through all kinds of mediums yet always been reprimanded for what might seem as little to no real out burst, still when testing the waters I have always been restricted as the powers that be hit me full force!
My question is then why now, why let me speak without constriction, I know guidance is always at hand but why now?
Who cares! Freedom to speak and what a lot I have to tell. Those who have studied the esoteric yet have never been indulged by it must be at a loss when trying to understand it, yet those who exposed to it feel the same. Ones man loss is another man's gain so who is at a loss and who is to gain?
For me it is simple, I’d rather be one who is not touched by the esoteric thus being a freeman from that that is outside of oneself, rather than being one who is constantly being dictated to by that that is outside of oneself having constantly to live in accordance to it!
Saying that, after enough trials and retribution, once measures have been accounted for, once you accept that there are consequences you learn to accept them for what they are, only then does the sense and sensibility see you through.
You see, taking a measure of oneself is ego at worst, the truth being we can only truly be measured by those who can make a measure. Only the deluded, only those who are taken by the ego measure themselves. I believe isn't always the best way to start your beliefs!
So where to start? For me it really is so easy but to put it into, what? Lay man's terms, I know that would be condescending to say the least, yet it would take me to ask a big ask for you to start where I could begin. To take you to the beginning would be asking you too much, trust me, it really is a big ask!
Okay, I have been at this point for days trying to realise what, where and when? Every time I have tried to start to explain words just start to fail me, the easiest way to explain is to give you a few alternatives. What I mean is, history as you have been given isn't for me the same given!
Try this, being of the esoteric you have to understand that what you have been taught might, and that is a big might, not really be the whole truth as the reality of truth might be a little disturbing for most.
So let us take the what history dictates as being the dark ages. The dark ages began when the silk road was realised, once realised the passage of many attributes came to passage. In that you would have to agree that equally some good things would be realised as some bad things.
Knowing where the silk road lay, it isn't a stretch to understand that we are talking about what is now known as the road to the poppy is one in the same. They called it the black death, the dark years ensued! Born out of this a plague? What would you expect from a introduction to such a debilitating component? Nothing less than a dark age?
Being a component of the Christ rationale I am exposed to so many of what man would prefer man to realise but being outside of the exponent that is man I am struck dumb at how so much is lost within man to see what is being reported as truth as to what truth actually is!
I see the world both from the bottom up as to the top down, polarity is my only freedom, my only curse!
When I became aware of the two books then I became concerned, very concerned!
The lore of law is set, no stone be upturned, no stone need be harmed, as it is engraved within in us all what man is, more over what woman is! The books that pass through the ages dictate the law of lore, the lore that than becomes law is then set by the age of man!
The weakness of man will be set not in stone but in his willingness to override natures design, a designation man has little to no true assignation! For they lay with woman not with men!
Man's battle is with man himself, woman's battle is with life alone, a battle made more difficult thus a cult must be more about difference than simple indifference!
From eugenics to genetics, one in the same yet one moves from dream to reality!
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Re: Another Christ thing.....
by Holypoo » Wed May 30, 2012 6:26 am
The world is full of theories, ideologies, persuasions of all natures and rightfully so! You see for me science is a religion as religion is a science, one in the same, both trying to explain the what, where, when but when it comes to the why that is then the question that is always asked yet never resolved.
We are curious creatures, the root nature is to question regardless, if the answers evade us we continue on, the pursuit will move from generation to generation, knowledge will pass, flow, a continuum for that is consciousness! Whether collective or simply a unique perspective it is what it is, a journey!
The human race has surpassed seven billion, a number that is by layman terms incomprehensible. Science has reached the question of dimension, religion remains fixed around the concept of creation. My view sees things in both concepts. For each individual a unique perspective is achieved, a singularity in terms of consciousness gives rise to a single dimension in space and time. Each one of us lives within our own dimension, each one a singularity!
Who is right, who is wrong? Which makes more sense,which questions are the right ones? What was once considered fact evolves into yet another question. Einstein himself died questioning the mind of God, a life in pursuit of understanding finally gives into the ultimate theory that is everything.
When you apply yourself to such a question, if you stay with the purity of the notion you will ultimately receive the answer that once perfection is realised everything ceases to exist as that is the reason for being, to achieve the mind of god results in the equality of consciousness, an individual can then unify the collective.
As I understand it, energy has a sense of itself, what I mean is when something like an atom is split the first thing released is a wave of energy we call magnetism, a pulse! For me this pulse is nothing more than nature giving a heads up as to what is about to occur. Everything within the field that is local is then polarised, everything points to the source, even the ignorant that is the animal kingdom realise something significant is about to happen, time itself stands still.
The energies that then follow have potential to change the environment in so many ways nature realises this and will act accordingly. So asked what is the purest form of energy within this universe, a good question I thought but it took quite a while for the answer to return. The irony was in the question itself, you see the question is the answer! The purest form of energy is found within us, within the mind itself, it is the question!
The purity of thought, the path to the answer lay within, lay within the neurons, right there between the transmitters and receivers. The purer the thought the purer the energy! The next question I had to ask, just how pure do I now allow my thoughts to become? Do I go in pursuit of the mind of god? Easiest answer, no!
I was given the understanding that there are thirty six of us Christ’s walking the earth at any given moment. We span three generation's, twelve for each, replaced as and when needed. We span the world, no colour, no creed, we are all similar yet have something different to offer. If we are needed we will be brought to the fore, if not then we just remain in the background doing what we do.
So for the most part we don't matter, our existence is pretty much futile, our lives are governed, protected, sometimes indulged, most part denied. We are neither alpha nor omega, only on demand do we get to step up, only when required do the powers that be put us into play. With play in mind that is why I do this, I am bound by no religion, I have no real belief in system or events that concern the majority, I can only observe, question, play with the thoughts, motives, what it is to be human.
Many questions have been asked, answers already realised, some for me obvious, some profound, what is most questionable is, well that in itself is another question!
Moving on!
We are curious creatures, the root nature is to question regardless, if the answers evade us we continue on, the pursuit will move from generation to generation, knowledge will pass, flow, a continuum for that is consciousness! Whether collective or simply a unique perspective it is what it is, a journey!
The human race has surpassed seven billion, a number that is by layman terms incomprehensible. Science has reached the question of dimension, religion remains fixed around the concept of creation. My view sees things in both concepts. For each individual a unique perspective is achieved, a singularity in terms of consciousness gives rise to a single dimension in space and time. Each one of us lives within our own dimension, each one a singularity!
Who is right, who is wrong? Which makes more sense,which questions are the right ones? What was once considered fact evolves into yet another question. Einstein himself died questioning the mind of God, a life in pursuit of understanding finally gives into the ultimate theory that is everything.
When you apply yourself to such a question, if you stay with the purity of the notion you will ultimately receive the answer that once perfection is realised everything ceases to exist as that is the reason for being, to achieve the mind of god results in the equality of consciousness, an individual can then unify the collective.
As I understand it, energy has a sense of itself, what I mean is when something like an atom is split the first thing released is a wave of energy we call magnetism, a pulse! For me this pulse is nothing more than nature giving a heads up as to what is about to occur. Everything within the field that is local is then polarised, everything points to the source, even the ignorant that is the animal kingdom realise something significant is about to happen, time itself stands still.
The energies that then follow have potential to change the environment in so many ways nature realises this and will act accordingly. So asked what is the purest form of energy within this universe, a good question I thought but it took quite a while for the answer to return. The irony was in the question itself, you see the question is the answer! The purest form of energy is found within us, within the mind itself, it is the question!
The purity of thought, the path to the answer lay within, lay within the neurons, right there between the transmitters and receivers. The purer the thought the purer the energy! The next question I had to ask, just how pure do I now allow my thoughts to become? Do I go in pursuit of the mind of god? Easiest answer, no!
I was given the understanding that there are thirty six of us Christ’s walking the earth at any given moment. We span three generation's, twelve for each, replaced as and when needed. We span the world, no colour, no creed, we are all similar yet have something different to offer. If we are needed we will be brought to the fore, if not then we just remain in the background doing what we do.
So for the most part we don't matter, our existence is pretty much futile, our lives are governed, protected, sometimes indulged, most part denied. We are neither alpha nor omega, only on demand do we get to step up, only when required do the powers that be put us into play. With play in mind that is why I do this, I am bound by no religion, I have no real belief in system or events that concern the majority, I can only observe, question, play with the thoughts, motives, what it is to be human.
Many questions have been asked, answers already realised, some for me obvious, some profound, what is most questionable is, well that in itself is another question!
Moving on!
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Re: Another Christ thing.....
by Holypoo » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:00 am
I’ve been deliberating over what to do next. It was either something about genetics, something ancient or something current? Then after reading a couple of posts and a few long soaks in the bath something came to mind.
When all this started for me I found my mind being dragged from pillar to post! Then the first of what can only be called a deep subconscious awakening occurred.
The first understanding within this mindset was that of the 'Solomon temple', how to create your own conscious fail-safe reset when you are pushed to the brink of the abyss it is a simple return to sense and sensibility.
The second was a little more bizarre, a little more unsettling as it involved a second consciousness within my own.
After this occurrence I presumed that consciousness to be that of what is known to be Pandora. The reason being she showed me a box, not of any real proportion, not of any real significance just a simple wooden box that contained an endless amount of wooden cups, goblets, all the same in size and portion yet each containing differing amounts liquid.
She simply explained each cup represented a life, the rest you should know! She then went on to explain a great many more understandings that I really had no need or desire to know but she was more than insistent that I realise these things as she said this is how it is done and has always been done.
Now I’d love to say it didn't take long for me to realise that this was not Pandora but years went by before the who she was came to light.
She goes by the name of Lilith, the first woman, she came before Eve, the rest you can look her up and make up your own mind!
From that first meeting within my mind there have been a few more but she was the first one to hold my hand you might say. The others have their own signature’s, their own sense of presence but hers is some how different, not something I can explain so I wont.
The thing is, how should I put this, I’ve died more than once, I know, haven't we all. The first time I parked my car several feet up a tree, the second, third and forth again mistakes, the fifth was of my own volition.
No need to go into it in detail, I simply hung myself. I strung myself up from the banister and stepped off the stairs, the noose tightened, within a few seconds the lights went out!
Now here's the stretch.
When I lost consciousness, I gained another, I found myself in what I can only describe as a cave, standing at one end looking at the other I could see two openings, one dark the other not. In this other I could see a figure, tall, thin with a staff. Cloaked, hooded, your typical goolish stereo type.
I didn't walk I just found myself standing on a earthen strip on which either side lay rectangles in which what looked like water but wasn't shimmered. Rows and rows, endless rows of these pools in which I saw this figure gazing and stirring or pointing his staff.
Long story short, he explained how he was known by many names but the one that would make sense is the ferryman. He told me how he worked, what was involved, how souls needed to be worked and how somehow man had learned how to cheat him, the process was being put in jeopardy as the amount of souls now in the know.
Somehow the secrets of the dead and the living had been exploited for millennia yet recently it had been on the increase. It had happened before, many times, it always follows the same path, always the same type of people, in this a simple solution puts the balance back in order.
He knew of my kind, he'd watched us since the dawn of time, my kind are the key to the balance, we come here to pass just like everyone else but every now and again this situation plays out and one of my kind arrives here as we have to take something back!
He explained that what it is is a mark, this mark restores the balance so no more cheating the ferryman! He gave me the option of being able to see this mark once passed to those for whom it is intended but with that would come a whole load of other understandings that didn't sound to good so I declined that option yet now I might have been a little hasty.
My instruction was simple, meet and greet one of these individuals who have taken the oath, the knowledge of the closed coffin and shake their hand, from there on that mark will pass from hand to hand as this is how they need to greet in order to realise each other within their societies.
Like a virus it will quickly pass, as my family on both sides has various degrees of fellows of one order and another it wasn't hard for me to meet and greet, that was a couple of years ago now so I feel free to share this with those intended just what all this now means. Simply the age of the free and accomplished is all but at an end. As in ancient times, when the end game is in sight the rules of the game no longer need to remain a secret, if anything the time to share is at hand you might say.
Back to the how this came to pass, I woke up lying on the carpet still unconscious yet with a conscious dialogue going on around me stating that I cannot die being repeated over and over again! The first physical feeling was that of a tight grip around my throat. The next a realisation of a need to breath, once the noose was loose the understanding that I was actually in the throws of a convulsive fit was signified through the burning sensation down the right side of my face as the friction between it and the cheap carpet was removing my skin.
Darkness gave way to a dull light which gave way to the pain which grew down in my hip. I’d somehow bounced of the lower steps on top of the hoover which was evident in that the handle was now at right angles. Finding my feet the measure of what had just occurred gave me one understanding, I cannot die, not yet anyway!
As always, these scenarios once lived then take some time to then work their way through from the subconscious to the fore front and become a conscious understanding.
The next understandings that I feel that should be shared may be of less importance to some but more important to others, especially if you are of the societies who are not so much secret yet pertain that secrets lay within, you might not like what is coming next but it is what it is as we all know what will be will be, vis-a-vis!
Ciao for now, yours, the lion, the son of the magi, your very own personal christ, maranatha!
When all this started for me I found my mind being dragged from pillar to post! Then the first of what can only be called a deep subconscious awakening occurred.
The first understanding within this mindset was that of the 'Solomon temple', how to create your own conscious fail-safe reset when you are pushed to the brink of the abyss it is a simple return to sense and sensibility.
The second was a little more bizarre, a little more unsettling as it involved a second consciousness within my own.
After this occurrence I presumed that consciousness to be that of what is known to be Pandora. The reason being she showed me a box, not of any real proportion, not of any real significance just a simple wooden box that contained an endless amount of wooden cups, goblets, all the same in size and portion yet each containing differing amounts liquid.
She simply explained each cup represented a life, the rest you should know! She then went on to explain a great many more understandings that I really had no need or desire to know but she was more than insistent that I realise these things as she said this is how it is done and has always been done.
Now I’d love to say it didn't take long for me to realise that this was not Pandora but years went by before the who she was came to light.
She goes by the name of Lilith, the first woman, she came before Eve, the rest you can look her up and make up your own mind!
From that first meeting within my mind there have been a few more but she was the first one to hold my hand you might say. The others have their own signature’s, their own sense of presence but hers is some how different, not something I can explain so I wont.
The thing is, how should I put this, I’ve died more than once, I know, haven't we all. The first time I parked my car several feet up a tree, the second, third and forth again mistakes, the fifth was of my own volition.
No need to go into it in detail, I simply hung myself. I strung myself up from the banister and stepped off the stairs, the noose tightened, within a few seconds the lights went out!
Now here's the stretch.
When I lost consciousness, I gained another, I found myself in what I can only describe as a cave, standing at one end looking at the other I could see two openings, one dark the other not. In this other I could see a figure, tall, thin with a staff. Cloaked, hooded, your typical goolish stereo type.
I didn't walk I just found myself standing on a earthen strip on which either side lay rectangles in which what looked like water but wasn't shimmered. Rows and rows, endless rows of these pools in which I saw this figure gazing and stirring or pointing his staff.
Long story short, he explained how he was known by many names but the one that would make sense is the ferryman. He told me how he worked, what was involved, how souls needed to be worked and how somehow man had learned how to cheat him, the process was being put in jeopardy as the amount of souls now in the know.
Somehow the secrets of the dead and the living had been exploited for millennia yet recently it had been on the increase. It had happened before, many times, it always follows the same path, always the same type of people, in this a simple solution puts the balance back in order.
He knew of my kind, he'd watched us since the dawn of time, my kind are the key to the balance, we come here to pass just like everyone else but every now and again this situation plays out and one of my kind arrives here as we have to take something back!
He explained that what it is is a mark, this mark restores the balance so no more cheating the ferryman! He gave me the option of being able to see this mark once passed to those for whom it is intended but with that would come a whole load of other understandings that didn't sound to good so I declined that option yet now I might have been a little hasty.
My instruction was simple, meet and greet one of these individuals who have taken the oath, the knowledge of the closed coffin and shake their hand, from there on that mark will pass from hand to hand as this is how they need to greet in order to realise each other within their societies.
Like a virus it will quickly pass, as my family on both sides has various degrees of fellows of one order and another it wasn't hard for me to meet and greet, that was a couple of years ago now so I feel free to share this with those intended just what all this now means. Simply the age of the free and accomplished is all but at an end. As in ancient times, when the end game is in sight the rules of the game no longer need to remain a secret, if anything the time to share is at hand you might say.
Back to the how this came to pass, I woke up lying on the carpet still unconscious yet with a conscious dialogue going on around me stating that I cannot die being repeated over and over again! The first physical feeling was that of a tight grip around my throat. The next a realisation of a need to breath, once the noose was loose the understanding that I was actually in the throws of a convulsive fit was signified through the burning sensation down the right side of my face as the friction between it and the cheap carpet was removing my skin.
Darkness gave way to a dull light which gave way to the pain which grew down in my hip. I’d somehow bounced of the lower steps on top of the hoover which was evident in that the handle was now at right angles. Finding my feet the measure of what had just occurred gave me one understanding, I cannot die, not yet anyway!
As always, these scenarios once lived then take some time to then work their way through from the subconscious to the fore front and become a conscious understanding.
The next understandings that I feel that should be shared may be of less importance to some but more important to others, especially if you are of the societies who are not so much secret yet pertain that secrets lay within, you might not like what is coming next but it is what it is as we all know what will be will be, vis-a-vis!
Ciao for now, yours, the lion, the son of the magi, your very own personal christ, maranatha!
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