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[Thomas]

You have spelt out your dietary Vegan ways to us here (And problems.) Now you say you are not talking about the subject of vegan diets. Can you honestly say they were only on what if's.

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You say you are a vegan, you say you have been doing so, and you say you have had associated problems, so you are Not thriving on it. (Or just making it all up.)

[p_devlin]

You say you are a vegan, you say you have been doing so, and you say you have had associated problems, so you are Not thriving on it. (Or just making it all up.)

Please show me where I typed that i am a vegan?

[Geronimo]

if you are in a male human you still need to seek His advice and help and to see if it is a successful spiritual fast. Only very few believe that there is life after human death

Ask who?
I dont think that is true in regards to "only a very few believing there is life after human death"
Id say there are millions who believe it. I certainly do and i know many on here and who used to be on here do as well.

[p_devlin]

http://www.danielbaylis.ca/costa-rica/c ... ased-diet/

if you go to the comments section Gingerspark had this to say.

Gingerspark 10 February 2011 at 10:27 AM #

Short answer: Yes. Humans can survive and thrive.

As a person with ::ahem:: several academic degrees in Nutrition I can assure you that humans can and do survive and thrive on a VARIETY of diets.

Our eating habits evolved based on where our ancestors lived, what foods were available to them, and what their “spiritual” teachings were.

Our ancestors ate what was available to them; what they found and what they grew; not every climate and soil-type can sustain the same edible plants and animals. Over time spiritual/religious beliefs were overlaid and voila! We have the cultural traditions of today.

I believe that it is our “privileged” status as rich Westerners that permit us to be self-righteous about our diets. We not only have enough, we have too much. We can decide what we eat, what we won’t eat, and what form we will eat it in.

We are fortunate enough to be able to ‘live to eat’, rather than other less fortunate individuals on our planet who ‘eat to live’ (and often don’t have the option to be picky)

People who have the luxury of choosing what lifestyle and diet they what to follow are more than free to do so.

Omnivores, vegetarians, vegans, gluten-free, additive-free, raw food diets, only organics, 100-milers, self-sufficient “off-grid” survivalists… they are all valid choices on which an individual can not only survive, but thrive! Some choices are just way more ‘work’ than others.

Some individuals choose their diets based on strong beliefs (religion, ecology, green-lifestyles, love of animals, etc), and some choose because of their health (food sensitivities, allergies, heart health, cancer, etc). I’ve even heard of people who choose their diet to annoy others (“It freaks my family out that I’m vegetarian”).

I’m all for diversity! What I am against is aggressive conversion techniques, evangelical diet gurus, and the propagation of conspiracy theorist misinformation designed to use guilt/fear/ etc to make others fall into line.

In other words – do whatever you do because that’s what you want to do and it’s what you chose to do. Own it. But don’t make up unsubstantiated and unsubstantiated-able facts/myths/conspiracy theories/pronouncements as excuses or reasons.

[Geronimo]

Much of it is anecdotal. Does that necessarily mean that it is not proof?

Absolutely it is not proof.

You have come very near to halleluiahing a few times, imo, so ill ask, Isn't the bible anecdotal? Does that mean the therein nonsense...i mean BS stories... i mean tall tales... i mean...you know what i mean, is also not proof?

[Thomas]

You say you are a vegan, you say you have been doing so, and you say you have had associated problems, so you are Not thriving on it. (Or just making it all up.)

Please show me where I typed that i am a vegan?

Then you are only talking about hearsay obviously and making it all up from that, where as Billy knows because he has been through it.

[p_devlin]

Then you are only talking about hearsay obviously and making it all up from that where as Billy knows because he has been through it.

so where did I quote that Im a vegan??

you just love to argue dont you

I dont see you evidence that proves that a vegan diet is universally damaging!! where ?

If some people can live and thrive on a vegan diet as I am sure that some do which I can go to curezone and ask if you like and Im sure 1.618 knows some who have then it cant be universally true can it.
Therefore what is preventing more people being capable of adopting such a lifestyle! or do we have to keep going round until you get it?

[Thomas]

so where did I quote that Im a vegan??

Which is why I included "Or just making it all up"

Nice try but fail

I dont see you evidence that proves that a vegan diet is universally damaging!! where ?

I said there is overwhelming evidence ( and proof that some are being damaged; I know some) and that people are having associated problems with it, and absolutely no proof that anyone thrives on it.

[p_devlin]

And I have given links that show that people do indeed thrive as vegans.
I have never stated that all would thrive!



I previously asked

Postby Thomas » Tue May 01, 2012 3:07 pm

All I have said is that it is wrong to state that something is universally damaging when it clearly isnt.
That is being subjective!

That is not true, it could very well be universally damaging. There is absolutely no proof that there is not, but there is overwhelming evidence that it can be damaging.

You have implied! then OK

so what! ....... now your saying that it isnt universally damaging?

In which case then it is entirely possible that some people can thrive on such a diet!

[Thomas]

And I have given links that show that people do indeed thrive as vegans.

Twice we have been through that is not proof.