This is what Gordon Brown has done!

[Sandie Seward]

This is what Gordon Brown has, today, signed away.
Read it carefully, you won't much like what you read, believe me.

When we saw Mr Brown emerging from his surreptitious signing of this treaty, we should have been under no illusions as to the significance of what he has set his hand to.

This was the day when our country finally abandoned any pretence to exist in its own right in the world or to run its own affairs.


More than ever, we are to become just a small, subordinate part of this highly questionable new entity which is already in the process of changing our lives - as through its insistence on virtually unlimited immigration - in ways which even ten years ago would have seemed unthinkable.


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The fact that we have been denied the right to pronounce on whether we want it or not makes this arguably the most shameful betrayal in our island history.


It was no accident that the document Mr Brown signed yesterday was originally called a "Constitution", because it does mark a further very significant step towards what was always intended to be the ultimate goal of that process - the emergence of the EU as a fully-fledged government in its own right, as a direct counterpart, for instance, to the United States of America.


More obviously than ever before the nations making up what they now like to call just the "Union" will be simply provinces of a "country called Europe" with ever less power to run our own affairs.


On the dotted line: Gordon Brown signing the Treaty of Lisbon yesterday


So what are ten of the most obvious ways in which this treaty will change our lives irrevocably?

1 For a start, the treaty will make us more formally than before "citizens of the European Union".

For years we have carried "European Union passports"


But now we are to become citizens of this "Union" before anything else - just as the inhabitants of Texas are above all American citizens - with rights and duties overriding those attaching to our subordinate role as citizens of Britain.

2One of the most conspicuous ways in which this "country called Europe" will project itself on the world stage, and to us as its citizens, is that it will for the first time have a permanent President, a powerful figurehead in office for up to five years.

We shall not yet be allowed to choose that President ourselves - he or she will be chosen for us by the "heads of government", the 27 prime ministers making up the European Council - but there will soon be pressure for "our" new President to be elected by all the "Union's" 490million "citizens".

3Alongside him will be the EU's foreign-minister - the so-called "High Representative" - parading on the world stage as the 'Union's' chief international spokesman.

He will have his own diplomatic corps and worldwide embassies, intended gradually to replace those of individual countries such as Britain - and he will be able to exercise the further new right given by the treaty empowering the Union to make any kind of international treaty in our name.

4The "Cabinet" of this new government will be the European Council - which is given a wholly new status by the treaty, with its members placed under a wholly new obligation - to put the objectives of the Union above those of their own country.


So when Gordon Brown or his successors attend future Council meetings, they will not do so representing Britain's interests but as servants of the "Union"

5Remembering that power to propose-EU laws is already exercised solely by the unelected European Commission, another innovation is that for the first time each country will no longer have the right to be represented by its own Commissioner.

That means that, on occasions, laws affecting all our lives will be put forward entirely by officials from other countries.


6The new treaty greatly extends the powers of the unelected Brussels government to dictate laws and policies overriding the wishes of elected national parliaments - although in some cases it has already been exercising those powers even before the treaty is signed.

7The treaty will, for example, give a huge boost to setting up a "Common Defence Policy", based on interlocking all our armed forces and defence industries so that it becomes impossible for any country to act independently.


8The EU-wide police forces will not be far behind.

This week our Foreign Secretary was unable to deny that we might one day see armed Romanian or Latvian policemen of the EU Gendarmerie Force, already taking shape, operating on the streets of Britain.

9The treaty will set up a "Common Energy Policy", making it impossible-for Britain to act independently in looking after its own national needs, just when this is becoming more critical than ever before.

10Another very serious threat to Britain's interests - as yet another City think-tank was warning this week - lies in the new opportunities the treaty will give our "partners" to introduce intrusive and politicallymotivated financial regulations which would undermine the one area of economic strength in which we still reign supreme: All those banking and financial services centred on the City on which all our national prosperity ultimately depends.


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[SpaMan]

He has done all these things Sandie ..... what is worse, he has stolen our heritage ....and our future in so doing...

Traitor doesn't begin to describe our gravy train politicians

[Sandie Seward]

Hello, SpaMan, and a warm welcome to the TPUC Forum. Thank you for registering with us. I wasn't too sure if you would, but I am so pleased that you have decieded to join us in our struggle for a more Democratic Britain.
Now, we have to show them on Newsvine, how it's done.

[SpaMan]

Ah yes - that is a great place to get global coverage of issues - we should invite everyone here to join in too


Thanks for the welcome.... and please continue to do what you have been doing so well for so long.

[catmar]

Brown is more afraid of the new world order than he is of the British People, not surprising really because we yield to what ever is thrown at us and just grumble that this is not right, but what we should be doing is standing up and saying NO we do not consent to this, why oh why do we not do that.

If Brown says no to these criminals he would meet his death in very suspicious circumstances and he knows it and he fears it therefore he and others close to him obey like good little slaves they are. Brown is not in charge of the UK he is just the puppet. That being said it is us the population of the Island that must say NO.

One of they good ways to organise this NO is doing what someone else has done and use social networks like face book, this group I am referring to has a goal of getting 1 million people to stop paying their TV licence fee on the 1st of January, we need to think about what else we can do on these networks that will throw a spanner into the new world order wheel.

This is the info for the group if you have not yet seen it.

http://www.tpuc.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=3

[david_grothier]

What Daisy Brown has done is a crime against this nation...the obvious question now is why have the people of this nation allowed him to stay in office?

Are we really than kind of cotizensheeeeeep?

We are all fast running out of options, and this is what we have to consider.

Leave things as they are and just get swallowed up into the EU.

Whip the people's interest up in these issues so that they fully understand what is happening to them-----------as most dont.

Once done, organise a contra workers' political party, people love their politics and their parties, gives them a sense of belonging.( please note Darren, Dave, Dan and others, please note and learn the psychology of the voters,)

Then without further ado, strike this indolence government down--or forever hold you peace.

You see the talk here is usless, unless you all seek out efective ways to impliment what you think is right for the nation.

My only fear is that once John Harris runs out of enthusiasm as he finds all his avenues continually blocked---then everyone else will and the whole thing goes PHHHHUUUUTTTTTT!

Get it into your heads that what we all face is a wicked, vile, strong, evil enemy in the Establishment: they will fight you with every resourse at their disposal to hang on to their power and that includes Marshall law and summary executions---if you are not prepared for this---please all go home now!

Or stick to peddling "T" shirts--its a lot safer.

[x]

The one thing I promise everyone is that I will never run out of, as David puts it, is Enthusiasm!This quest is in my heart as it was in my ancestors who tried to do much the same, sometimes they won sometime they lost, but nerveless, whatever they were faced with, they never gave up. This is simply about doing the right thing and correcting the very source of the problem.

As many of us know when corruption enters into any country, corporation, or any other entity it always starts at the top and filters down. In my opinion and many others who i work alongside the cure to the corruption must do the same. What Brown does, with what you believe to be the government, is simply just a smoke screen of deception designed simply to direct the attacks away from the real governing body of this land. As the Temple Bar consist of an inner and outer temple, the government of the country is split exactly the same way, what you see is the outer government controlled by an inner government you have no comprehension of, or possibly did not even know it existed, which is not your fault for your not meant to.

To truly sort out the problems in this country you aim your attack at the real people responsible and not the puppets who claim to have power, they are just a smoke screen. I am constantly attacked by David for not answering questions regarding the state of affairs presented to us and how I would sort it out regarding policies and political methods, this is not what i am here to do! Nor am I to change anything about myself that is presenting something that is not really me, that instantly makes me the same as the people in Westminster striving for social status and acceptance and I wish for neither.

I have recently been very quite on the website, forum and have not been writing articles but this does not mean i have not been busy, oh and by the way I just became a Granddad again, so I did have a little time off.

At the heart of this website is a research team who are constantly exploring and digging about in all sorts of subjects. In a team away from the website we have the 300 years of combined knowledge and wisdom regarding constitutional law and common law when you accumulate the combined ages of all the group, some of these people have been studying these subjects individually for over 50 years. They understand as I understand that what has to be changed is the very top of this country before any other changes can be made. When thinking about this problem as a brick wall, if you keep bashing away in the center or at the bottom it will take a long time to get through even if you can, but if you just simply go to the top, the slightest knock can dislodge the first brick, with little or no effort.

What we are working on has the makings of being explosive and will rock the very foundation of this country and hopefully topple the top brick, metaphorically speaking, then all the people who suffer in this country, will eventually stop suffering, but I am afraid for a while there will be even more suffering, as bad times are certainly on the way and this cannot be helped, as much as it saddens me. What we are working on will be revealed in it's own good time and not before, no matter what pressure is put upon the people working on it, who i might add give all their precious time free of charge, this was the reason we decided to sell T shirts and will be coming up with other ways to try and raise funds to help the people involved, for most who do this live on the bread line because of the amount of time they dedicate to this project.

We are doing what we feel is right and just because people like David do not agree with us and constantly attack us because of this, including the selling of T shirts, will not make us divert are attentions from what we believe to be the right course of action, everyone has a right to do what they feel is right, free from attack of any kind and if you don't like our approach there are plenty of organizations and websites that will appreciate your views and help. I have never asked anyone to follow my course of action and everyone who does, does this through their own free will.

No doubt I will suffer attack from David and others over this post and i fully expect it, but as they say the insults presented to me are just like water off a duck's back and simply are just a waste of that persons time for they do not effect me in the least, I just felt the need to explain what i have been up to.

The inner group of TPUC are now in the process of bringing you new and really helpful information regarding the Law and other matters of interest, that will not only help you understand what has been done, but also helpful advice on how to defeat these people in law, or at least start to cause them disruption. Also to teach people about their own personal Sovereignty and how you should never give it up to anyone and how you have been fooled into giving it up, then taking it back with Article 6, for that is exactly what it does and believe me the powers at be know this.

To David a little quote from Starlin; '...it's not the people who cast the votes that make the decision, it's the people who count the votes...' And who controls the counting?

Oh and by the way to just show you how corrupt people with money are; I was offered funding to help do what we do and guess what came with it....Control!! Change this , change that and then i will help you. This is simply why politics and this country are dead in the water for this simple reason, the very same process that was tried on me!!

[antieu]

The queen needs to remove labour from power and kick all labour MPs out, and try Gordon Brown at the high court , Also completly remove the BBC so that the govnment can neaver create properganda again.

[david_grothier]

Well said John, well said, I think though for everyone's sake its time to put the cards on the table. I don't as you know doubt your enthusiasm, but as we have discussed its going to take a hell of a lot more than enthusiasm to go where you want to go.

Armed with you enthusiasm, your rights, and the common law you have already been barred from getting to the queen, and ejected from the House of Lords, even though the law was clearly on your side.

So lets as I said put the cards on the table. You talk about doing the right thing, What exactly do you mean and what is your idea of the right thing?

You mention yours ancestors, who were thy and what did they try to achieve?

I know that you are in to things that we can call as being, “shrouded in mystic”, so why not let us know where you are coming from, as what you do, think and feel–-is important to us all.

To date you have has little success in, as you state, correcting the very source of the problem. Kindly identify what you see is the source of the problem and exactly how you intend to correct it.

John I think you are now a little behind on your concepts of the extent of the corruption in the UK. It used to be cut the head of the snake off and the snake is dead, today corruption in the UK administration is all but complete…have you heard of Common Purpose, beside all else it runs with?

I am afraid John that even if you “hit the head”, like Medusa, there are many more to take its place.

We have spent many hours discussing the true nature of the power of this country, the force behind the government. I have clearly identified this source and informed you many times that you have –-“ no way in hell of even getting close to it.” Except one, the time honoured and most effective political instrument in the world––people power, the art is to empower all the people with the knowledge of how they are being abused and used as tools.

When people are empowered with that knowledge, they, like me, will have no difficulty is declaring themselves in Legal Rebellion, and enemy of this corrupt administration. If the rank and file can see what I have, they will have no difficulty in fighting for their rights and the rights of their families. I will no longer be a tool of the corrupt state, imagine millions of others stating the same!


You state John, “I am constantly attacked by David for not answering questions regarding the state of affairs presented to us and how I would sort it out regarding policies and political methods, this is not what I am here to do”! OK that’s fair enough, but please tell us then John what exactly are you here to do?

We have had many long hours of discussion John, and it was you who finally said , much too my surprise, as I never considered myself as wise, apart for that of life’s experiences, (see my post of yesterday), that it was I who had the wisdom you sought. I don’t know if that’s right or not, but all I have told you, advised you upon, and warned you of, has indeed come to pass. (Remember John I exercise traditional wisdom, if there is such a thing, which is considered to be some amalgam of knowledge, spiritual profundity a Stoical ability to analyse the evils of the world, and with practical ability or phronesis to seek a solution to get rid of them)


It would be a good think id you could indeed illuminate on your research team, as when I question one of your presumed researchers I was told to go and watch the Martrix! I trust that is not the combined 300 years of effort that you refer to.

Beside all this wisdom on common law, so far has just managed to get you kicked out of the House of Lords

John I have to tell you, especially as you are into historical things––-the way to attack a castle, or as you say brick wall, has always been to undermine and weaken its foundation–-you cannot get to the top brick as you will be beaten down with all sorts of nasty weaponry.

Undermining the castle of British government will be an easy process of passive civil disobedience and if you have your heart tuned to the pulse of the people of this nation, they are just a few short beats away from doing just that––-all it will take is an inspired leadership–-and I regret after much soul searching and a change of my personal opinion, you are too wrapped up in John Harries to be that! This is a people’s fight, a fight by the people for the people, with no room for anything else. I have told you that the key is inspired leadership….and you seem to want to miss the boat.

You say, “ What we are working on has the makings of being explosive and will rock the very foundation of this country and hopefully topple the top brick,.”

I say that you wont! Without the full support and back of the people your cause will be smothered and die an natural death at the hands of the Establishment’s power brokers.


Further more you state,” We are doing what we feel is right and just because people like David do not agree with us and constantly attack us because of this.

That John is rubbish, I don’t attack anyone and you know it. What I do is to question hair-brained ideas such as arresting the queen and if you think that’s attacking then you had better pack it all in now, for I am not the establishment of this country and I only us words!


John you are beginning to show your true colours here when you state further, “No doubt I will suffer attack from David and others over this post and I fully expect it, but as they say the insults presented to me are just like water off a duck's back and simply are just a waste of that persons time for they do not effect me in the least, I just felt the need to explain what i have been up to.”

Since when as a balanced counter reasoning and questioning been construed as an insult?

You state–––“The inner group of TPUC are now in the process of bringing you new and really helpful information regarding the Law and other matters of interest.”

I was under the impression that the free society advocated here would never tolerate inner groups, sounds like to old druids at play again to me

Nice quite this John––––“To David a little quote from Stalin; '...it's not the people who cast the votes that make the decision, it's the people who count the votes.”

However they can only do so if the people vote!

[x]

Please David I would like to get one thing straight with you; I never went to the House of Lords and nor did I suffer any sought of embarrassment of any kind and even if I had it would not bother me, for the only thing that is important is the truth and nothing else and that is all that my heart contains. I think what happened here was a simple mis-understanding over a dodgy connection between England and Spain on the telephone.

I rang the House of Lords Judicial Office to inquire when it would be possible to approach four Lords to take my petition to the Queen as Common Law allows, this can also be done through a Judge in chambers or Black rod. All I was trying to confirm was their knowledge on Common Law and if every route had been shut down by Parliament and yes I found out what I needed to know. What was quite interesting was the fact that they suddenly realized I new the process and came back with ' I would need a certificate from the high court to do so' and they were quite embarrassed when I dismissed this with Common Law for they had no answer, but to rely on the lie they first used and then the gentleman on the end of the phone abruptly put the phone down. I was left smiling as is normally the case when I get these people to try and explain their lies.

One of the things I have been working on is another route, buried in history and discovered by one of the team, that we will be trying next. This involves something that needs to be explored and cannot be done from where I live now, but can be done from where I was born. As it is still under investigation, as many things are, I choose to keep a lid on it till such time we have made more progress, if only to stop people like yourself ridiculing it, which serves no practical help.

What my ancestors tried to achieve and what they did achieve has no barring on what I do now, but only has similarities that are not important and only would give you more ammunition to throw at me, which simply would just waste more of my time that is needed on more important things than discussing my family history. My idea of the right thing is exactly that, my idea, nothing more needs to be said. Yours as I know will end up in total chaos, bloodshed and then back to the same system under even more control for as long as it takes for mankind to destroy itself. Are you sure you are not an advocate of globlelisation David? For your policies and this national socialism you talk about, seems very similar in fact one and the same.

What you identified to me is a symptom of a disease and not the disease itself and corruption is simply corruption and you my friend have no clue how deep it goes if you think the problem just resides with the Queen. What I will say is, I would happily let parliament repeal the Bill of Rights tomorrow in fact I hope they do, just look at the words and keep reading them and maybe it will sink in, if it does not then you are not ready to hear what I have to say and if you think this is just about Lawful Rebellion then you have even further to come than I thought, My dear Heven gave you a clue in her last post.

You always talk about Wisdom and you miss the most important fact; when you become wise you suddenly realise how little you really know. David its about letting go of men's lies and their knowledge. Your constant explanation of Wisdom is the exact opposite of what Wisdom truly is, that is quite evident because you try to explain it.

Druids or Templars David, or both! Come on, you don't even know who they really were? All you have ever said to me about these people is just a repeat of mens lies, found in mens knowledge, deliberately constructed to conceal the truth of these people again i feel another of your vain attempts to discredit me. Please may I ask why you constantly try to do this?

Not all things that are hidden David are sinister, that is why truths were hidden in history so they could be used in the future, you just have to know where to look for them and be able to distinguish them from mens lies hidden in their false knowledge.

You know the one thing I have learned is, that you have a knack of taking me away from the one thing I have just realised a short while ago, and again in this post I have done it all over again. I now believe that everyone has a right to believe anything they choose and should be able to do so without ridicule. Although this is not afforded to me, I know I must afford this to everyone and in the future I will endeavor to do so. So I apologise to you David for saying you are wrong and I will be more mindful in the future with all I post, you say as you see it and so do I, and we are both entitled to do so.

This will be my last post for a while on the forum for I have something I must research and attend to for the next few weeks, concerning a new approach that has been discovered and others we are working on. When the time is right this will be published, but for now a lot of research must be done to be able to explain simply what we have found.

The truth is simple, mankind makes it complicated.