My Council Tax

Re: My Council Tax

Postby TheAntagonist » Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:13 pm

star3t wrote:A warrant of arrest for what exactly?

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A warrant for arrest for non payment of council Tax. They will issues one of theses when you do not appear before the court.


Hi

You have me curious ;) have you had first hand experience of this? I was under the impression from what has been discussed on this site that it would get passed over to collectors, not the police for recovery action - although I guess they are a form of revenue collector. I thought they used the police for things like breakage of bail conditions and failure to turn up for a trial in crown court or maybe I may be wrong, or if folk commit a real crime and get arrested? Have the cops come knocking at your door for this?

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Re: My Council Tax

Postby Verbs2010 » Sat Nov 26, 2011 3:02 pm

@The Antagonist

I see that we are still awaiting our questions to be answered then,lol.
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Re: My Council Tax

Postby Verbs2010 » Sat Nov 26, 2011 3:02 pm

@The Antagonist

I see that we are still awaiting our questions to be answered then,lol.
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Re: My Council Tax

Postby TheAntagonist » Sat Nov 26, 2011 5:58 pm

Verbs2010 wrote:@The Antagonist

I see that we are still awaiting our questions to be answered then,lol.


Lol yes same old same old :D

How is this site expected to be taken seriously I ask myself. And I note most of the posts on this site are a little dated.

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Re: My Council Tax

Postby star3t » Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:37 pm

No not first hand. But if you don't pay and do not appear before the court after summons then surely there be a warrant out for your arrest would there not? After all I have seen nothing to support that there would be? pehapes you could point me in the right direction to aquiring this information.
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Re: My Council Tax

Postby umbongo82 » Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:47 pm

TheAntagonist wrote:
star3t wrote:A warrant of arrest for what exactly?

@TheAntagonist

A warrant for arrest for non payment of council Tax. They will issues one of theses when you do not appear before the court.


Hi

You have me curious ;) have you had first hand experience of this? I was under the impression from what has been discussed on this site that it would get passed over to collectors, not the police for recovery action - although I guess they are a form of revenue collector. I thought they used the police for things like breakage of bail conditions and failure to turn up for a trial in crown court or maybe I may be wrong, or if folk commit a real crime and get arrested? Have the cops come knocking at your door for this?

TheAntagonist


Police or certified bailiffs, doesn't matter which, can arrest someone under a warrant for council tax.
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Re: My Council Tax

Postby TheAntagonist » Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:21 pm

umbongo82 wrote:
TheAntagonist wrote:
star3t wrote:A warrant of arrest for what exactly?

@TheAntagonist

A warrant for arrest for non payment of council Tax. They will issues one of theses when you do not appear before the court.


Hi

You have me curious ;) have you had first hand experience of this? I was under the impression from what has been discussed on this site that it would get passed over to collectors, not the police for recovery action - although I guess they are a form of revenue collector. I thought they used the police for things like breakage of bail conditions and failure to turn up for a trial in crown court or maybe I may be wrong, or if folk commit a real crime and get arrested? Have the cops come knocking at your door for this?

TheAntagonist


Police or certified bailiffs, doesn't matter which, can arrest someone under a warrant for council tax.


Hi

Can you direct me to the legislation for this as I need to educate myself. I know they can arrest your bank, earnings and items you own, but wasn't aware they can arrest YOU for this, and find this interesting and at odds with what is being discussed on this site.

Cheers

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Re: My Council Tax

Postby umbongo82 » Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:26 pm

No one can 'arrest' (I think you mean garnishee orders) your bank for council tax.

I'm in no doubt that you find it at odds with what is being discussed on this site. Facts tend to be at a premium here.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1992 ... on/47/made

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1992 ... on/48/made

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1980/43/section/125
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Re: My Council Tax

Postby TheAntagonist » Sat Dec 17, 2011 11:27 am

umbongo82 wrote:No one can 'arrest' (I think you mean garnishee orders) your bank for council tax.

I'm in no doubt that you find it at odds with what is being discussed on this site. Facts tend to be at a premium here.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1992 ... on/47/made

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1992 ... on/48/made

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1980/43/section/125


hi

Many thanks for your helful response. This now proves to me why most of the posters on here never finish these so-called stages of process. I saw these on the folwong sites:

http://www.bankruptcy-insolvency.co.uk/ ... _debts.php

When you can be sent to prison for your debts

Being sent to prison is a great fear for many people with serious debts. In most cases, it's very unlikely. A prison sentence is a last resort, and apart from fraud (see 'Fraud' below) it can happen only for specific types of debt.

These include if you haven't paid:
■fines from the magistrates' court;
■your Council Tax or business rates: or
■maintenance for your husband, wife or children.

You can be sent to prison only if the magistrates believe that you 'won't pay' rather than 'can't pay' your debts (that is, you have deliberately refused to pay, or you have chosen to spend the money on other things you didn't truly need).

If this is the case, the court will probably make a 'suspended committal order'. This means that the magistrates will set an amount for you to pay each week or month. You will be sent to prison only if you miss any of these payments. If that happens, you will be sent a warrant to be arrested and brought before the magistrates. You cannot be sent to prison without another hearing, although you may be put in police cells overnight.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTaxAnd ... G_10013198

Court hearing

If your council has tried using bailiffs but your Council Tax still isn’t paid in full, they may apply to the Magistate’s Court for a warrant committing you to prison. The council will only take this step when other efforts have failed.

Before issuing a warrant of commitment the court must hold a means enquiry with you present. A warrant will only be issued if the court is satisfied that the failure to pay is the result of wilful refusal or culpable neglect. The maximum period of imprisonment is three months.

The court may decide to postpone the period of imprisonment on certain conditions, normally relating to payment of the debt over a period of time. The court also has the power to remit all or part of the debt.

Thanks for your helpful information, it's good to see solid evidence being posted on here :)

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Re: My Council Tax

Postby Shinkansen » Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:25 pm

I too keep checking back Antagonist. Thanks for some real advice backed up with evidence.
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