NOTE: I recommend you watch the video I posted on the previous page since it gives a foundation to the rest of this... :
OK – I had written a big message to go with this but the F’ING ‘B’$£%$£ing Page timed out and I lost most of it and really can’t be bothered writing it all again....cant even remember what I said in the beginning! Ha!
So Here is a Proper Update! These are not shared to be an example, or a template, or anything - its my learning curve, my probing and my thoughts/ideas throughout...they're not perfect and do get a bit emotional at times, but i dont know about you, but sometimes im feeling very empowered and upbeat about this stuff, othertimes, i waver a bit, and this is reflected in these. I'm sharing these because an update was overdue, and I really appreciate the kind words of support and interest in it...
Heres the links to the replies and I hope you can make sense of it.
I’m SO annoyed at that bloody timeout thing...
I had gotten one letter on the 5th August (which i cant find) saying ‘thanks for you’re letter, ill respond soon’, then another the very next day, from the same person, telling me the liability order had been granted in my absence (lesson learnt on my part about going to court!)http://www.alternativeanswers.net/new/freemansharing/HPBC/HP-Council%20Tax%20Replies_liability%20orderpage1.jpghttp://www.alternativeanswers.net/new/freemansharing/HPBC/HP-Council%20Tax%20Replies_liability%20orderpage2.jpghttp://www.alternativeanswers.net/new/freemansharing/HPBC/HP-Council%20Tax%20Replies_liability%20order-pay%20request%20page%202.jpghttp://www.alternativeanswers.net/new/freemansharing/HPBC/HP-Council%20Tax%20Replies_liability%20order-pay%20request.jpg
Then a few days later, the 11th august, i got a ‘proper’ reply, from the same personhttp://www.alternativeanswers.net/new/freemansharing/HPBC/HP%20Council%20Tax%20Replies_11%20Aug.jpghttp://www.alternativeanswers.net/new/freemansharing/HPBC/HP%20Council%20Tax%20Replies_11%20Aug%202.jpg
So I sent them this:
And they sent me this:http://www.alternativeanswers.net/new/freemansharing/HPBC/HP%20Council%20Tax%20Replies%208%20sept.jpghttp://www.alternativeanswers.net/new/freemansharing/HPBC/HP%20Council%20Tax%20Replies%208%20sept%202.jpg
So I retorted with this.
Now it seems they were willing to at least try to reply properly because I got this, which was the first addressed to Master Deojee: http://www.alternativeanswers.net/new/freemansharing/HPBC/HP%20Coucil%20Tax%20Reply%208-10-09_0001.jpg http://www.alternativeanswers.net/new/freemansharing/HPBC/HP%20Coucil%20Tax%20Reply%208-10-09_0002.jpghttp://www.alternativeanswers.net/new/freemansharing/HPBC/HP%20Coucil%20Tax%20Reply%208-10-09_0003.jpghttp://www.alternativeanswers.net/new/freemansharing/HPBC/HP%20Coucil%20Tax%20Reply%208-10-09_0004.jpg
Now, by this point, theres a fair amount of fencing going on, and, since I’d got the Master title from them, I decided to abandon all attempts at conformity and sent them a handwritten, undated letter
Sorry if you can’t read my writing, if enough of you struggle, I may do a transcript, but this was amusing to write! I hope you get the humour of the second paragraph... http://www.alternativeanswers.net/new/freemansharing/HPBC/HP%20CT%20handwritten%20notice_0001.jpghttp://www.alternativeanswers.net/new/freemansharing/HPBC/HP%20CT%20handwritten%20notice_0002.jpghttp://www.alternativeanswers.net/new/freemansharing/HPBC/HP%20CT%20handwritten%20notice_0003.jpg
AAAAaaaannd....they send me this:http://www.alternativeanswers.net/new/freemansharing/HPBC/Hp%20ct%20reply%2026-11.jpg
So, I was tired of them ignoring all my clever and time consuming points! And sent this, once again, ignoring ‘accepted social form’ such as date, header, address, ‘sincerely’ etc. Yes, I’m deviating from Notices here, but as I mentioned above, this has all been part of experimenting...http://www.alternativeanswers.net/new/freemansharing/HPBC/last%20letter%20to%20council%20December%2012th.pdf
Aaaannd this came in:http://www.alternativeanswers.net/new/freemansharing/HPBC/Hp%20ct%20reply%2026-12-9_0001.jpghttp://www.alternativeanswers.net/new/freemansharing/HPBC/Hp%20ct%20reply%2026-12-9_0002.jpg
And, tired of it all by now, I sent this...Also, by this time, we had been in court for someone else for council tax (this was when I got them to record me as Master Deojee in court), and we noted how the council began their entire pitch with the Notice they published in the paper in Jan/Feb, and they kept starting their speil from there...that was when we realised: Its THAT Notice that tricks you into contract – they publish a public notice outlining the council tax rates in the local rag....THATS the time you need to respond....I had done it wrong by even making one months payment, and I kinda knew I was always on a weak leg with that, which is why I kept a vehement argument in other areas, but it annoyed me how all these folks and freemen who had been ‘fighting council tax’ and all the rest...why had none published or said that it was, quite obviously in hindsight, this early Notice that gets you tacitly? So, we’ve now tried other routes – my friend is front-ending it by Noticing his council in advance that he does not submit or agree to tacit agreements of any sort and requires a human interaction for each one. Myself, I’ve not acted this year because I got distracted on something else (my other work) and in our new home we have a different arrangement, but in future, I was going to publish a public notice in the paper myself to play with this (incidentally, thats why they get the rights to dig up roads etc etc – its all Noticed in the local papers...)
SO.....since I knew I was wrestling a tough match, I went with this..
And I did pay that portion, to be honourable, and we moved out.
The bailiffs found us within weeks...I think there may have been some other letters/notices, but I cant find them, I also billed HPBC, but cant find that, but you can find an example of one of my bills below...to the bailiffs!
I can’t find the very first bailiff letter, but I responded to that with this email, which was pretty full on – even my friend I do this with winced and said id gone a bit far, but hey, I lived in fear of debt for decades, so I’ve got a bit of therapy to get out http://www.alternativeanswers.net/new/freemansharing/HPBC/NoticetoDukes.pdf
They already had me in their automated system, so trapped themselves with an automatic letter:http://www.alternativeanswers.net/new/freemansharing/HPBC/Dukes2nd.jpg
and I hit them with this:http://www.alternativeanswers.net/new/freemansharing/HPBC/Notice2ndtoDukes.pdf
And this bill...I had sent at least one of these to the council, but cant find the original....but this lets you see how ive used my seal in other ways just for fun, incidentally, I’ve always signed each invoice by hand to comply with the bills of exchange act...http://www.alternativeanswers.net/new/freemansharing/HPBC/InvoicetoDukes.pdf
And thats it! Full update on this case! I have others, but hey, I’m done in after that!
So, I’m waiting for them to take me to court for the second time so I can present all of this, and counterclaim with my outstanding bills of a few thousand to HPBC and the £400 to the bailiffs who have disappeared!
If anyone has spare cash and fancies some fun in court, I’ve a bunch of debt collection companies and this council who i have robust paperwork for that, should the bills be enforced, should make it more than pay for itself – PM me if you want to play:)
As a final note. As I say in the film clip, we’ve discovered, probably much like yourselves, what it actually means to be up against ‘a system’ – its literally a series of flowcharts and visio diagrams. People are hiding behind their job roles to be rude and an arse and we’ve been trying to separate them from the process they operate. You may have noticed that coming in at the end of the notices. What we’ve been trying to do is get them to stop feeling protected by their employer and legal team and threaten to take THEM The Human to court because it is they who choose to be an arse, or to send thieves round (ie bailiffs) etc etc. So, thats what we’re hoping to do, because if we can get the message across that their company CANT protect them and cant stop them getting hauled into court and accused, then perhaps we can see some changes in behaviour start to spread as the story spreads.
And thats my intention at the end of the day with all of this – to change the behaviour of all the inhuman obnoxious characters we all face on a daily basis in companies and public service. I really see the careful and authentic use of the Master title as a genuine means to achieve this, but, as I said at the beginning, this is experimental.
So, as you can see, the reason I’ve not updated is because I am approaching it slightly differently, I hope, if you’ve managed to trawl through all this lot, you’ve got some sense of that.
Comments welcome, hope you are all well...
PS let me know if any of the links dont work...