Vaccination story

[psybernism]

I was sectioned for a couple of weeks in my early twenties, the psychiatrist told me he was putting me on some very mild antidepressants, I forget the name now. Fortunately in the second week of my incarceration I was allowed to go into the nearby town with my mum to have some lunch. I made a bee-line for the nearest bookshop and looked up the drug only to find it was actually an anti-psychotic with a number of side-effects including early onset of senile dementia.
Every night they would give me this little red pill until one night they tried to give me a rather large yellow pill. I protested and fortunately at that time my dad was visiting and the "mistake" was rectified. I don't know what would have happened if he hadn't been there and I had kicked up a fuss, would probably have been put in the restraint room i had observed and injected with sedatives, tranquilisers and all sorts.
On my release I went for one follow-up session with the same psychiatrist who barely looked up from his paperwork as he briefly asked me how i was doing and proceeded to scribble out a prescription for the same anti-psychotics.
Needless to say, I stopped taking the pills shortly after, screw the incap benefits! 3 months later I started a job and I have never looked back.
Before being sectioned I had been taken by my family to a see reiki healer who, after a prolonged session, told me that i might experience a release of my anger as my body cleared the energies released by the healing. That uncontrollable outburst was the reason I was sectioned, I ended up smashing up my mum's boyfriends car with a lump hammer and he called the police.

I wouldn't trust these so-called medical professionals to administer a nice cup of tea.
I've heard that many doctors are sent on "seminars" organised by pharmaceutical companies to train doctors how to peddle their drugs. Quite often these "seminars" are conveniently close to a golf course and sometimes they are in such humble locations as the Bahamas.

[h.arti-210]

Oh my God - THIS ROCKS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjx-abt6xAU

Reply coming to psybernism real soon.....

[h.arti-210]

Dear psybernism,

I want to thank you so much for the thoughtfulness of your posts. I've really been comforted by your insights and understanding. I feel like you see me, even though you haven't met me...

Sounds like you had a rough time, earlier in life.... it sounds like even then you had your head screwed on, though (not up!)

In answer to one of your questions: he said he was just giving me the same antibiotics....he didn't say it was anything else... but yes, I have wondered ....

Thank you for the wonderful offer of putting me in touch with your healer friend. I can't afford any more treatment at the moment, but maybe for later when I have some more dosh...it's good to know what's out there in the local area
I, too, am as you guessed, very much up on the ancient healing arts.... I particularly like acupuncture and I am thinking of maybe training as an acupuncturist later on.

Going back to the chest infection that instigated this spiral of horror,

I had suddenly decided to subject myself to a lot of undue pressure and mental over-work,

I was trying to prove something to myself or something.

The heart chakra is said to be the seat of our consciousness; you seem pretty clued up in terms of spirituality (yoga does that) and, by the reckoning of your tutors, academically as well.

YES, you got it in one there hun.... I've been well aware for some time that the issue has to do with the Heart Chakra..... I have always been ruled by the heart, and was told a lot of times by spiritually aware people that I was heart-chakra dominant, and that I gave too much of myself from the heart without getting enough back. . . . leaking energy basically, and not using it always very wisely.... but even when I got hurt I'd go back for more... I wanted to forgive, so much, but I was just setting myself up for even more punishment. I've learnt this the hard way, too many times... I guess all this, and the feeling of being judged / condemned, all that over-work, driving myself into the ground for something I didn't even need, trying to carve a niche but instead just chipping away at my own soul. I see now how much i have been a martyr to myself, and the cause of my own downfall. This is what it takes to stop me in my tracks. Pity, really.

It seems to me that you lost faith in your own ability to see the new course through without putting in a whole lot of extra effort even though you probably will breeze through it when you do get round to doing what you set out to do.

This part confused me a bit.... were you referring to me doing the access course (I finished that already), or were you talking about the degree I was going to do, but didn't?

(Excuse me if this seems like a bit of a waffle, have been mulling this over all day and lots of thought-threads have formed that I feel I need to knock about with you!)

Are you kidding me, what you've written here is amazing and has seriously made me feel like there is some very caring, thoughtful people out there, which is so comforting. Thank you, for thinking so much about me..... I have actually felt it, these last 2 nights.... I felt people's caring thoughts reach me in my bed and I felt a tingling all over my crown chakra, like prayers being received.... i slept more soundly than before. i'm so glad I posted this now.

So, the chest infection was a sign that you were over-doing it, you know that already.
I would also hazard a guess that your apparently super-clean living has left you with a under-developed immune system because you have not exposed yourself to enough nastiness to have developed an immunity to it.
It's similar to the fact that our society has seen a huge increase in people with allergies and weakened immunity to formerly innocuous substances because they have grown up in almost completely sterile environments and have not developed defences against even everyday things.
Despite the fact that you are super-fit and very healthy, when you plunged yourself into the shit-storm that is Glastonbury Festival it was all just a bit too much, especially as you were part of the rubbish detail, getting up-close and personal with what basically amounts to a sea of other peoples crap!

SPOT ON.... You have tuned in to my situation and hit the nail right on the head.... it's so nice when people understand me! ( Doesn't happen that often, and you haven't even met me! )

(and don't rise to the bait that people might dangle in front of you here, many people don't know shit.
What other people think or say to or about you doesn't affect you unless you let it. Immunity to inbound nastiness stretches further than just being able to fight off disease and infection, it's about being able to hold true to your central core, the essence of your soul that makes you who you are, a kind of psychic self-defense.
Say whatever you like,
" Those who mind, don't matter,
and the people who matter don't mind."

You're damn right, again!!! I think that's my lesson for the day, you know..... I think that Jargon Buster (he and I are good now though, by the way, via PM) and busylizzy may have come here just to help me learn that one.... and I had a really interesting video sent to me via YouTube too, this afternoon....
Here it is....Check it out!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_s1em_Vf_5s
Towards the end, he says something very much along the same lines as what you just said here... about not bothering about what anyone else thinks of you!!!!!

[matrixbuster]

your story really resonates with me..i have struggled with extreme tiredness my entire adult life..doctors don't care - I went the so-called conventional route to try and sort it out a long time ago, blood tests - scans etc.. the end result of which was "oh its probably a virus" and thats supposed to help me feel better - great! I still struggle with zero energy every day, no solution forthcoming..oh and the "depression" thing they try and say it is..u would be depressed too if u woke up every day and ur body wasn't prepared to deal with the day on 1% energy. its not depression, whatever "it" is causes the depression i'm sure of that and theres no way im taking pharma drugs for that. The reasons for my problems are very uncertain..It may have been a result of vaccinations in my childhood but I cant be sure..I did have a very bad eye allergy in my childhood which resulted in me getting many antibiotics and steroids to combat it - which now I realise could have destroyed my immune system- it all may be a part of my waking up , to want answers to it and the childlike inability of the "powers that be" (physicians) to give me an answer..u see how weak they are that they don't know everything...and that leads u to question more things...

[matrixbuster]

i have tried changing my diet, cranio-sacral, reiki, kinesiology...which diagnosed possible Lyme disease but the prescribed supplements didnt seem to work..another separate test which involved sending off a hair sample identified an immune deficiency, again the supplements recommended didnt seem to work, im currently gathering the willpower to maybe see a reiki practicioner again as it may be energetic/psychological ... I have been low for a few years since the last attempt to try and fix it.

Stay in there..u must be strong whatever u do , don't let it get the better of you, you have to have hope in yourself, these people who say "see a doctor they know best" they don't always know believe me I know from first hand experience. My bad health has possibly been the catalyst to see things as they really are, but the solution still evades me. I still hold down a good job but Its a matter of painting on a fake smile and plowing through it every day - hate it due to my low energy levels and the stress involved, I often think I would shrug it off and not be so drained by it if my energy levels were higher ...I hope you now feel u are not alone believe me I have some understanding of how you feel.

[psybernism]

I don't know if the ebook I 've attached will be of use to anyone, I've got a huge collection of ebooks that i never really browsed through until yesterday, i had a phase of downloading tons of torrents with allsorts of stuff. Will see if there's anything else that may be useful.
Will take up this thread again tonight, gotta mend a puncture before i can go to work!
Peace y'all.

[TacTZilla]

Hi there.

You could have heavy metal issues due to amalgam fillings.

What vaccinations did you have?

Whatever the situation I would highly recommend you have a look at Emotional Freedom Techniques (EFT). www.emofree.com

There's a free manual you can download and use it for yourself. Don't be put off by how it looks. It works even if you are skeptical.

That's how I got better from PTSD (Paramedic) and now I'm an EFT Practitioner.

Good luck and all the best.

Regards
Bob

[psybernism]

psybernism wrote:It seems to me that you lost faith in your own ability to see the new course through without putting in a whole lot of extra effort even though you probably will breeze through it when you do get round to doing what you set out to do.

This part confused me a bit.... were you referring to me doing the access course (I finished that already), or were you talking about the degree I was going to do, but didn't?

I guess, in a nutshell, you exerted 120% when 80% would have been plenty good enough, this left you depleted for the next phase which then resulted in the spiral of deterioration that followed.
It's wise to keep something in reserve by never expending more than it really takes to get something done. That way you have something in reserve for those times when the unexpected occurs and you need that extra push to make it through.

[ester]

h.arti-210:

Your illness sounds like it's most probably something called Chronic Fatigue Syndrome.

This sometimes just happens if you've had no illnesses for a very long time, then you get a viral illness that in itself is rather mild. In essence, it's what happens when an underused immune system gets prodded into action, and over-reacts.

I wouldn't be surprised if adjuvants like squalene (added to some vaccines for the specific purpose of irritating the immune system) cause problems by precisely this mechanism, but if your immune system has had nothing to do for years on end, anything (even a naturally-occurring wild virus) could trigger the onset of this.

CFS makes sufferers feel extremely fatigued, to the point of being debilitated. As you'll have noticed, making yourself angry is one of the few ways you can psyche yourself up enough even to do something as simple as use a computer.

The effects last for several months, and then sufferers recover by themselves. You can still make plans to go to university: they'll just have to wait till next year.

There's no medicine to cure CFS; it just has to run its course. To put it another way, doctors can't pump you full of pills for CFS: knowing this might decrease your mistrust of them. All they can do is put you on invalidity benefit (give you money), and make appointments (so you can talk, nothing else) once a week.

[TacTZilla]

Good post.

Often there are emotional contributors to CFS too.

My wife had CFS and EFT helped a great deal in her recovery.

EFT is worth a try especially if the only other option is wait and see.

The anger mentioned is possibly underpinning the whole thing.

Regards
Bob