Escape from UK!

[kazz67]

I see you've got previous blondie....

"kazz, i think ive made a mistake. the place i have in mind may not be called wirral country park"

..your photo of perch rock in said post was also misleading, as your designation was leasowe shore not new brighton promenade.

My my! - First you PM someone who doesn't know you from Adam and arrange to meet him, then you don't show, or somehow get your venues confused, then months later you decide, for no apparent reason to start harassing him on the board.

That's one very interesting MO you have there 'loose control'.

For your information I was speaking to Llewop around the time he was going to meet you and I advised him against it given that you were/are a complete stranger. Being a free-thinking soul he totally ignored me and went anyway.

So how about you back off now and stop harassing him for what was obviously a simple confusion over the place of your meeting. - Actually, you remind me a bit of a woman from here I arranged to meet one time who also didn't show and also tried to blame me. Luckily I'm not easily bullied or intimidated.

Peace, love, unity,
Kazz. xxx

[llewop]

kazz, you forgot to say that also told me to never take sweets from strangers

loose control - we can meet anytime you want, but only along with other people. check out the liverpool meetup section on this site.


about the latvian community - today, i spoke with someone who has agreed to sell land, a mixture of land, forest, open fields, streams, fresh water springs. the land is suitable for growing vegetables and there is plenty of wood for building and for heat.

it is about 5 acres of land and can be done through a private mortgage. the cost is nearly £4,000.00

we would also have use of the 2 houses there as well as outbuildings though we would not own these, we would only use the land.

so its 5 acres of land for 4k. or around 25 acres of land for 10k with a load of buildings. both can be done through a private mortgage.

so far, i have received 8 PMs from people who are interested in this.

i think if 30 people started this community, then at a cost of around £200 each we would all be equal owners of the land and have an equal say in the running of the community.



any questions? anymore takers?

[landfreedom]

I am also interested as I told you via email 4 weeks ago, I sent you a reminder email 2 weeks ago since you said you would answer my questions when you would be back online; maybe my email ended up in your spam filter?

[kazz67]

I am also interested as I told you via email 4 weeks ago, I sent you a reminder email 2 weeks ago since you said you would answer my questions when you would be back online; maybe my email ended up in your spam filter?

So why not post your question here seeing as you're a member now? That way maybe we can all benefit.

love n hugs,
Kazz. xxxx

[landfreedom]

OK. To sum up what I asked, and some additional questions that I came up with now;

- Can you tell me what building regulations there are in Latvia. In Bulgaria you're allowed to build a house without concrete foundation on agricultural land without a permit.

Based on this we can determine what options we have. In order of prefence, I prefer earthships/straw bale houses/ earth houses / wooden houses and as a mobile home: yurt, "mobile" straw bale home, wooden home, caravan, camper.

- Can you tell me what conditions there are for the private mortgage. How much for downpayment, will the ownership be transferred at the notary before or after paying everything and when it will be signed afterwards, what will I get to guarantee the transfer? What if the owner has unsettled payments and someone takes the land in the mean time while it's still registered to the seller?

- How many small plots of land are available and at what rates if people don't want to join the community?

- What features does the land have?
1) I prefer green, fertile land. A common problem in Latvia is that land is too wet, if this is the case there, is it possible to do something about it?

2) Is the south facing side of the land free of high trees? As we'd need sun from the south for passive solar heating

3) Is the land not visible from the road?

4) Does the land have a stream or river or is it wet enough to dig a well?

5) Does the land have trees and plants on it and it it not entirely flat?

6) Does the land have parts where it's windy (wind turbine) and parts where there is day round sunshine (solar panels)

7) How is the availability of internet by satellite? I assume dsl/cable is not available in rural areas

8) Are there no power lines running over or besides the property?

9) What is the distance to village with a supermarket, ATM machine, post office, doctor, pharmacy, farmers market

10) What's the distance to airports and are there any cheap airlines available?

11) Is there mobile phone network coverage on the land?

12) No busy road next to the land

I really would like to contribute to this community; I have the will, the skills and the mindset to not only change my life and do this, but also help others to build their houses and change their lifes.

[llewop]

OK. To sum up what I asked, and some additional questions that I came up with now;

- Can you tell me what building regulations there are in Latvia. In Bulgaria you're allowed to build a house without concrete foundation on agricultural land without a permit.

There are strict building regulations in the city, but in the country in the middle of nowhere, there are still regulations but generally they allow whatever you want. The land is in the middle of nowhere so thats why they allow whatever you want. I have this info from a friend, i have not checked with latvian authority about this.

Based on this we can determine what options we have. In order of prefence, I prefer earthships/straw bale houses/ earth houses / wooden houses and as a mobile home: yurt, "mobile" straw bale home, wooden home, caravan, camper.

I think you have many options. There are plenty of forest land, trees and wood.

- Can you tell me what conditions there are for the private mortgage. How much for downpayment, will the ownership be transferred at the notary before or after paying everything and when it will be signed afterwards, what will I get to guarantee the transfer? What if the owner has unsettled payments and someone takes the land in the mean time while it's still registered to the seller?

I think the conditions would differ from each seller. Usually the transfer of sale takes place on the last payment - this is legal in latvia and will be notarised by a notary or solicitor.

- How many small plots of land are available and at what rates if people don't want to join the community?

I wouldnt know. I am just giving the idea. Im not in charge of this idea, i guess whoever is interested in this and whoever decides to join would have equal decisions.

- What features does the land have?
1) I prefer green, fertile land. A common problem in Latvia is that land is too wet, if this is the case there, is it possible to do something about it?

Yes, the land can be wet in some parts. I remember walking through a forest and then this forest changed into a shallow lake with trees in it! Not sure if the land can be drained.

2) Is the south facing side of the land free of high trees? As we'd need sun from the south for passive solar heating

It depends on the land that was eventually purchased.

3) Is the land not visible from the road?

The latvian countryside is in the middle of nowhere. Generally its not visible from the road. The place I stayed at it took me about a 40 minute walk to get to the road. This was the main road running through the countryside, it would have about 2 or 3 vehicles travelling past per hour.

4) Does the land have a stream or river or is it wet enough to dig a well?

Again depends on the land that is eventually purchased. There are many fresh water springs in latvia.

5) Does the land have trees and plants on it and it it not entirely flat?

Yes. there are lots of trees there. I found cabbage (different from uk style) strawberrys plants and potatoes and apple trees. I found these on the land i had a chance to buy. Its possible to plant vegetables and also possible to buy apple trees / fruit trees. Theres no problem in buying trees or plants for growing. Forgot, i also found an apricot tree which gave me apricots whilst it was snowing!

6) Does the land have parts where it's windy (wind turbine) and parts where there is day round sunshine (solar panels)

Yes, some parts are windy so possible to build a turbine. But not always windy! Solar panels are also possible but i guess this could maybe a problem during the winter when it is snowing.

7) How is the availability of internet by satellite? I assume dsl/cable is not available in rural areas

Internet is FREE! Seriously, 100% FREE! It is mobile internet through a dongle. You may have to use a large extension and place the dongle in the tree, but you then have unlimited use of the internet. Ive a friend who can supply sim cards that allows free internet. But even if you had to pay for it is very cheap.

8) Are there no power lines running over or besides the property?

Yes, a single line cable. The electric was weak though... Example, if i had the light on and then i decided to boil the kettle, then the light would dim. Also, during periods of snow the electric was just cut off and i was left without power for small periods of time.

9) What is the distance to village with a supermarket, ATM machine, post office, doctor, pharmacy, farmers market

Depends what land is purchased. Where i lived, the nearest suprtmarket, atm, everything was in the city which was about 90 minutes away by bus.

10) What's the distance to airports and are there any cheap airlines available?

There is only one airport, it is in Riga which is the capital city of latvia. Ive never been there as fear of flying so i had a bus journey which took 2 days. The cheapest airline is Ryanair. Air Baltic is expensive.

11) Is there mobile phone network coverage on the land?

Yes, with tele2 or LMT. see www.tele2.lv

12) No busy road next to the land

No. About 3 cars per hour. aNd that was the main road running near the land, but i gusess this could be different if land is purchased in a different area

I really would like to contribute to this community; I have the will, the skills and the mindset to not only change my life and do this, but also help others to build their houses and change their lifes.

Its good that you would like to contribute to this community. I do have some others who have sent me email and there are now 11 people interested along with their families.

What i suggest is that for everyone who is interested, to each have an equal say and decision in the running of the community. Life is so much better and healthier out there!

Any more questions, just fire them at me

now, red writing for the bad points - there are wild wolves there and bears and wild pigs
can get guns without a problem. i did see a wold and a wild pig, they both ran away from me. wolves and pigs dont attack humans. bears do attack but to see a bear in latvia is rare, they are only in some small areas. they will attack only if the human is in between the bear and the bears baby.

[landfreedom]

- Didn't you receive my emails? Or what's the reason you didn't answer them?

1) Check it. I won't build anything that is not allowed. As I said in Bulgaria it's allowed by LAW to build a house without concrete foundation on agricultural land without a permit. If this is not the case in Latvia it's not interesting.
I don't see why anyone would build something in the middle of nowhere that's not allowed, it can be demolished when ever they want to do so

2 Again will it be put on paper at the notary BEFORE of AFTER paying the final payment?

3 You don't understand what I am asking - I am asking for availability of small plots of land 2 to 4 acres in general

4 If the land can not be drained it's not interesting!

5 I am talking about the land that you have on offer right now

6 How can you access the land then? Is there a tarmac road/sand road to the land or do you need to go over land of other people? Is there a right of access that's registered with the land agency and is this road usable year round?

7 Again I am talking about the land you mentioned

8 & 9 : Great

10: Why is this free and what service is that (GPRS, UMTS) what's the tested speed of that connection? Is there satellite internet coverage?

11 I hate power lines over the land, I wouldn't consider hooking up to the electric grid

12 Again the land you mentioned which is available

- Again: When do you want to start with this, how soon can the land be available and how many people how how much many and want to live there permanently?

OK. To sum up what I asked, and some additional questions that I came up with now;

1 Can you tell me what building regulations there are in Latvia. In Bulgaria you're allowed to build a house without concrete foundation on agricultural land without a permit.

There are strict building regulations in the city, but in the country in the middle of nowhere, there are still regulations but generally they allow whatever you want. The land is in the middle of nowhere so thats why they allow whatever you want. I have this info from a friend, i have not checked with latvian authority about this.

Based on this we can determine what options we have. In order of prefence, I prefer earthships/straw bale houses/ earth houses / wooden houses and as a mobile home: yurt, "mobile" straw bale home, wooden home, caravan, camper.

I think you have many options. There are plenty of forest land, trees and wood.

2 Can you tell me what conditions there are for the private mortgage. How much for downpayment, will the ownership be transferred at the notary before or after paying everything and when it will be signed afterwards, what will I get to guarantee the transfer? What if the owner has unsettled payments and someone takes the land in the mean time while it's still registered to the seller?

I think the conditions would differ from each seller. Usually the transfer of sale takes place on the last payment - this is legal in latvia and will be notarised by a notary or solicitor.

3 How many small plots of land are available and at what rates if people don't want to join the community?

I wouldnt know. I am just giving the idea. Im not in charge of this idea, i guess whoever is interested in this and whoever decides to join would have equal decisions.

- What features does the land have?
4) I prefer green, fertile land. A common problem in Latvia is that land is too wet, if this is the case there, is it possible to do something about it?

Yes, the land can be wet in some parts. I remember walking through a forest and then this forest changed into a shallow lake with trees in it! Not sure if the land can be drained.

5) Is the south facing side of the land free of high trees? As we'd need sun from the south for passive solar heating

It depends on the land that was eventually purchased.

6) Is the land not visible from the road?

The latvian countryside is in the middle of nowhere. Generally its not visible from the road. The place I stayed at it took me about a 40 minute walk to get to the road. This was the main road running through the countryside, it would have about 2 or 3 vehicles travelling past per hour.

7) Does the land have a stream or river or is it wet enough to dig a well?

Again depends on the land that is eventually purchased. There are many fresh water springs in latvia.

8) Does the land have trees and plants on it and it it not entirely flat?

Yes. there are lots of trees there. I found cabbage (different from uk style) strawberrys plants and potatoes and apple trees. I found these on the land i had a chance to buy. Its possible to plant vegetables and also possible to buy apple trees / fruit trees. Theres no problem in buying trees or plants for growing. Forgot, i also found an apricot tree which gave me apricots whilst it was snowing!

9) Does the land have parts where it's windy (wind turbine) and parts where there is day round sunshine (solar panels)

Yes, some parts are windy so possible to build a turbine. But not always windy! Solar panels are also possible but i guess this could maybe a problem during the winter when it is snowing.

10) How is the availability of internet by satellite? I assume dsl/cable is not available in rural areas

Internet is FREE! Seriously, 100% FREE! It is mobile internet through a dongle. You may have to use a large extension and place the dongle in the tree, but you then have unlimited use of the internet. Ive a friend who can supply sim cards that allows free internet. But even if you had to pay for it is very cheap.

11) Are there no power lines running over or besides the property?

Yes, a single line cable. The electric was weak though... Example, if i had the light on and then i decided to boil the kettle, then the light would dim. Also, during periods of snow the electric was just cut off and i was left without power for small periods of time.

12) What is the distance to village with a supermarket, ATM machine, post office, doctor, pharmacy, farmers market

Depends what land is purchased. Where i lived, the nearest suprtmarket, atm, everything was in the city which was about 90 minutes away by bus.

13) What's the distance to airports and are there any cheap airlines available?

There is only one airport, it is in Riga which is the capital city of latvia. Ive never been there as fear of flying so i had a bus journey which took 2 days. The cheapest airline is Ryanair. Air Baltic is expensive.

14) Is there mobile phone network coverage on the land?

Yes, with tele2 or LMT. see http://www.tele2.lv" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

15) No busy road next to the land

No. About 3 cars per hour. aNd that was the main road running near the land, but i gusess this could be different if land is purchased in a different area

I really would like to contribute to this community; I have the will, the skills and the mindset to not only change my life and do this, but also help others to build their houses and change their lifes.

Its good that you would like to contribute to this community. I do have some others who have sent me email and there are now 11 people interested along with their families.

What i suggest is that for everyone who is interested, to each have an equal say and decision in the running of the community. Life is so much better and healthier out there!

Any more questions, just fire them at me

now, red writing for the bad points - there are wild wolves there and bears and wild pigs
can get guns without a problem. i did see a wold and a wild pig, they both ran away from me. wolves and pigs dont attack humans. bears do attack but to see a bear in latvia is rare, they are only in some small areas. they will attack only if the human is in between the bear and the bears baby.

[llewop]

- Didn't you receive my emails? Or what's the reason you didn't answer them?

sorry about that, i get a lot of email and sometimes it takes me a while to answer but i thought i did send you email saying id get back to you as soon as i have the info

1) Check it. I won't build anything that is not allowed. As I said in Bulgaria it's allowed by LAW to build a house without concrete foundation on agricultural land without a permit. If this is not the case in Latvia it's not interesting.
check what? ive already checked with a latvian friend and i posted the details. to check something officially documents and plans are needed as well as money. generally the land is not seen and they give permission to do as you want.


I don't see why anyone would build something in the middle of nowhere that's not allowed, it can be demolished when ever they want to do so
generally if its your land and its in the countryside with wild wolves and things, theyre not really bothered as nobody else would see the buildings

2 Again will it be put on paper at the notary BEFORE of AFTER paying the final payment?
depends upon the agreement and decisions of the seller, each seller offers different options

3 You don't understand what I am asking - I am asking for availability of small plots of land 2 to 4 acres in general
i do understand what youre asking, but as i said i am not in charge of this alternative community, im no boss! all i typed is the idea. the idea includes that everyone in the community is equal, each having an equal decision in the running of the community. so for small plots of 2 to 4 acres, then this should be decided by the community. i know that you can not buy such small plots, around 20 acres is the minimum.... so it would be up to the community to make the decision to sell a small plot.

4 If the land can not be drained it's not interesting!
maybe not for you, but for me its interesting. where theres water theres fish. where theres fish theres my supper. if i was doing this alone i would look for land that is a lake / always wet

5 I am talking about the land that you have on offer right now
im not offering any land, am just typing the idea. i do have land that i can buy but its first come first served and i dont think that this alternative community will get enough people / commitment in time to buy this land

6 How can you access the land then? Is there a tarmac road/sand road to the land or do you need to go over land of other people? Is there a right of access that's registered with the land agency and is this road usable year round?
latvian people living in the country access the land usually by walking across fields or driving along a dirt track. you cant access this all year round because latvia suffers with a baltic winter. lots of snow!!!
there are documents about right of access but these change from each seller and would need to be translated and notarised

7 Again I am talking about the land you mentioned
its doubtful that land can be purchased in time. its being sold and they want a buyer, they are not going to wait until we decide yes or no. but as i said there are many fresh water streams and springs in latvia

8 & 9 : Great

10: Why is this free and what service is that (GPRS, UMTS) what's the tested speed of that connection? Is there satellite internet coverage?

i dont know if its gprs or umts and dont know the difference. all i know is that the service was free, it just cost me 5 lats for the sim card (about 7 pounds) its free because in latvia its who you know, who you know and who you know, think corruption! latvia is ex soviet union / russia, corruption is part of everyday life for latvians, so buying a sim card for free internet is normal over there

11 I hate power lines over the land, I wouldn't consider hooking up to the electric grid

they are not industrial, they are domestic type cables, like an extension reel running across the country

12 Again the land you mentioned which is available

see above answers

- Again: When do you want to start with this, how soon can the land be available and how many people how how much many and want to live there permanently?
ASAP! the land is available now. am not sure how many want to be seriously involved or live ther permanently

OK. To sum up what I asked, and some additional questions that I came up with now;

1 Can you tell me what building regulations there are in Latvia. In Bulgaria you're allowed to build a house without concrete foundation on agricultural land without a permit.

There are strict building regulations in the city, but in the country in the middle of nowhere, there are still regulations but generally they allow whatever you want. The land is in the middle of nowhere so thats why they allow whatever you want. I have this info from a friend, i have not checked with latvian authority about this.

Based on this we can determine what options we have. In order of prefence, I prefer earthships/straw bale houses/ earth houses / wooden houses and as a mobile home: yurt, "mobile" straw bale home, wooden home, caravan, camper.

I think you have many options. There are plenty of forest land, trees and wood.

2 Can you tell me what conditions there are for the private mortgage. How much for downpayment, will the ownership be transferred at the notary before or after paying everything and when it will be signed afterwards, what will I get to guarantee the transfer? What if the owner has unsettled payments and someone takes the land in the mean time while it's still registered to the seller?

I think the conditions would differ from each seller. Usually the transfer of sale takes place on the last payment - this is legal in latvia and will be notarised by a notary or solicitor.

3 How many small plots of land are available and at what rates if people don't want to join the community?

I wouldnt know. I am just giving the idea. Im not in charge of this idea, i guess whoever is interested in this and whoever decides to join would have equal decisions.

- What features does the land have?
4) I prefer green, fertile land. A common problem in Latvia is that land is too wet, if this is the case there, is it possible to do something about it?

Yes, the land can be wet in some parts. I remember walking through a forest and then this forest changed into a shallow lake with trees in it! Not sure if the land can be drained.

5) Is the south facing side of the land free of high trees? As we'd need sun from the south for passive solar heating

It depends on the land that was eventually purchased.

6) Is the land not visible from the road?

The latvian countryside is in the middle of nowhere. Generally its not visible from the road. The place I stayed at it took me about a 40 minute walk to get to the road. This was the main road running through the countryside, it would have about 2 or 3 vehicles travelling past per hour.

7) Does the land have a stream or river or is it wet enough to dig a well?

Again depends on the land that is eventually purchased. There are many fresh water springs in latvia.

8) Does the land have trees and plants on it and it it not entirely flat?

Yes. there are lots of trees there. I found cabbage (different from uk style) strawberrys plants and potatoes and apple trees. I found these on the land i had a chance to buy. Its possible to plant vegetables and also possible to buy apple trees / fruit trees. Theres no problem in buying trees or plants for growing. Forgot, i also found an apricot tree which gave me apricots whilst it was snowing!

9) Does the land have parts where it's windy (wind turbine) and parts where there is day round sunshine (solar panels)

Yes, some parts are windy so possible to build a turbine. But not always windy! Solar panels are also possible but i guess this could maybe a problem during the winter when it is snowing.

10) How is the availability of internet by satellite? I assume dsl/cable is not available in rural areas

Internet is FREE! Seriously, 100% FREE! It is mobile internet through a dongle. You may have to use a large extension and place the dongle in the tree, but you then have unlimited use of the internet. Ive a friend who can supply sim cards that allows free internet. But even if you had to pay for it is very cheap.

11) Are there no power lines running over or besides the property?

Yes, a single line cable. The electric was weak though... Example, if i had the light on and then i decided to boil the kettle, then the light would dim. Also, during periods of snow the electric was just cut off and i was left without power for small periods of time.

12) What is the distance to village with a supermarket, ATM machine, post office, doctor, pharmacy, farmers market

Depends what land is purchased. Where i lived, the nearest suprtmarket, atm, everything was in the city which was about 90 minutes away by bus.

13) What's the distance to airports and are there any cheap airlines available?

There is only one airport, it is in Riga which is the capital city of latvia. Ive never been there as fear of flying so i had a bus journey which took 2 days. The cheapest airline is Ryanair. Air Baltic is expensive.

14) Is there mobile phone network coverage on the land?

Yes, with tele2 or LMT. see http://www.tele2.lv" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

15) No busy road next to the land

No. About 3 cars per hour. aNd that was the main road running near the land, but i gusess this could be different if land is purchased in a different area

I really would like to contribute to this community; I have the will, the skills and the mindset to not only change my life and do this, but also help others to build their houses and change their lifes.

Its good that you would like to contribute to this community. I do have some others who have sent me email and there are now 11 people interested along with their families.

What i suggest is that for everyone who is interested, to each have an equal say and decision in the running of the community. Life is so much better and healthier out there!

Any more questions, just fire them at me

now, red writing for the bad points - there are wild wolves there and bears and wild pigs
can get guns without a problem. i did see a wold and a wild pig, they both ran away from me. wolves and pigs dont attack humans. bears do attack but to see a bear in latvia is rare, they are only in some small areas. they will attack only if the human is in between the bear and the bears baby.

[landfreedom]

A What, sorry? I sent you 1 email and a reminder email and you never answered any of those. No you did not say you would answer as soon as you would have the info, you said you would email me back as soon as you would be back online, within a couple of days, and I waited for 3 weeks until I found this thread.

It's not difficult to keep track of emails if you use folders "unanswered'' "answered"

B I do not care it they are not bothered, IT MUST BE ALLOWED BY LAW TO BUILD THESE TYPE OF HOUSES. Otherwise you put them there, invest in buildings materials etc and then they are removed. Especially with EU money, it's likely that this attitude will change over time. Again, you should check this with a legal counsil and the town hall and get a written statement allowing this from both of them. "A friend saying that they won't care" is not enough

C AGAIN, it's about the land you mentioned

D For the third time, I am not talking about the community, but the availability of small plots in general in Latvia

E No. If the land is too wet it has to be possible to drain it, and this will result in an investment, because you then can not grow vegetables, fruit etc on it and can not build houses!

F Ah, so you mentioned an example of land which doesn't even exist?

G Good answer. That means that you may not be capable to access the land at any time because people put fences between the road and your land. Thus it's not interesting.

H I wouldn't use that service then!

I This shows that you are NOT serious. The first things to show to people is the land that's available which you think it suitable for a community. You are talking about land that may or may not be available and you think it not suitable for a community.

Also the first thing you should ask people is how much money they have, when they want to get involved in this community and if they want to do it full time.

Good luck with your plans I am out.

[llewop]

A What, sorry? I sent you 1 email and a reminder email and you never answered any of those. No you did not say you would answer as soon as you would have the info, you said you would email me back as soon as you would be back online, within a couple of days, and I waited for 3 weeks until I found this thread.

i can only say sorry for the second time! i am not online as often as i would like and do have a lot of email to plough through when i am here. also i am not sure as to how you got my email addy, where you got it from and who gave it to you!

It's not difficult to keep track of emails if you use folders "unanswered'' "answered"
maybe easier to post on the forums rather than use private email... just a though. forums are easier to use for me

B I do not care it they are not bothered, IT MUST BE ALLOWED BY LAW TO BUILD THESE TYPE OF HOUSES. Otherwise you put them there, invest in buildings materials etc and then they are removed. Especially with EU money, it's likely that this attitude will change over time. Again, you should check this with a legal counsil and the town hall and get a written statement allowing this from both of them. "A friend saying that they won't care" is not enough
its not some random english friend. it is a latvian friend who is a government official. but as wilth most things government you do need to pay for an applition and official permission!

C AGAIN, it's about the land you mentioned
i'll say again, the land i mentioned is likely to be sold very quickly.

D For the third time, I am not talking about the community, but the availability of small plots in general in Latvia
ok and for the second or third time i will say that such small plots are not abailable to buy! that is the reason i suggested that if an alternative community was made the the community may decide its possible to sell you a small plot of their land.

E No. If the land is too wet it has to be possible to drain it, and this will result in an investment, because you then can not grow vegetables, fruit etc on it and can not build houses!
maybe easier not to buy wet land in the first place then.

F Ah, so you mentioned an example of land which doesn't even exist?
no, that is absurd. i mentioned an example of land that i lived on for around 3 months last year. many people using this site would have seen the pictures of the land and the outbuildings as i uploaded them to the forum at the time. why would i talk about land that doesn't even exist!?

G Good answer. That means that you may not be capable to access the land at any time because people put fences between the road and your land. Thus it's not interesting.
no you have this wrong. you can use someone elses land to access your own land. i guess latvia has similar laws as UK such as public right of way. these details would be notarised and shown on the documents concerning the house sale.

H I wouldn't use that service then!
you wouldnt use 100% free internet! lol, ok, no problem, your choice to pay for it or to use it free. but if you decide to live in latvia as it is an ex soviet union country it still has the russian values and corruption is part of everyday life.

I This shows that you are NOT serious. The first things to show to people is the land that's available which you think it suitable for a community. You are talking about land that may or may not be available and you think it not suitable for a community.
I am not serious? I think travelling latvia and finding suitable land last year and living on it for 3 months shows i am serious. I also think that even while i was living on the land i spent 3 weeks travelling the country looking at other land for sale.
it is suitable for a community, but not maybe for yourself, ie - you are asking about draining wet land, its easier to buy dry land isnt it? and when prices are around £6,000.00 for a house and a few outbuildings with around 24 acres of land, who cares if half an acre is wet! i doubt you could even get one acre of land in UK for £6,000.00 now!

Also the first thing you should ask people is how much money they have, when they want to get involved in this community and if they want to do it full time.
Ive only wrote the idea here. I am not a boss. I am not a leader. I simply wrote the idea. Ive said that a few times through this thread now! Why should i organise this? If people want it as a community, then its the peoples choice. talking about money etc just gives the impression that i am some boss in this! i am not! it is the community who decide things, not me!

Good luck with your plans I am out.
thanks! my plans are great, whether they are plans for myself and some very close people to me, or plans for anyone who wants to join an alternative community remains to be seen.