MultiMaddo85 wrote:Cool, some good information there thanks, certainly something worth thinking about....
I'm not a wuss with the cold like, even when I'm at home in winter I tend to just put more clothes on rather than burn gas all day and night, although, obviously I don't like to be so cold I'm shivering.
It's one thing that's making me re-consider how, where and when I join any off-grid community - unless I know that heating & fuel arrangements are in place then I think I'd be quite relectunant to join one now - I think these winters will continue, if not get worse
We're a bit scuppered really as there's not that much land that's remote and not in use anywhere in Europe really, at least not anywhere warm.
The 'elites' are setting up shop in Paraguay aren't they, bit too far for me but I can see why, remote jungle with plenty of water....
My two pence worth...
This sounds like a great idea... sadly though it is just an idea....
To make this work you would need:
People volenteering with skills who can work hard.... seems easy to say "no rules" but if your living in a community of approx 30 people surviving off food grown within 7 months (march-october) for 5 months (october-march) you NEED rules and rotas....
but im not in charge of this, its just my idea. i guess the rules or decisions would be made from the people in the community
Wood burners sound great... but if its -30 outside - without a rota no one will want to go get the wood for the stove!
lol maybe... but i used to enjoy going outside in minus 30 to get my wood, its a break from the house, you dont collect the wood from the forest during the winter, in the summer you collect the wood ready for the winter and store the wood near the house
LAWS... we barely grasp most of our rules / laws (some of which are corrupt) do we want to move to a country where we don't know the LAWS let alone any fair ones or the language?....
its european law. but in the middle of nowhere theres no bother with police. i was in rural for nearly 3 months without seeing poilice. i only saw the polcie when i was in the capital city at around 2am i went out of hotel, they ended up driving me around the city!
Its all well and good 25 acres being available for less than 10K but how much is the permit etc to build...
two types, but maximum cost no more than £170
I've seen it said "theres plenty of time to build defences" and "guns are readily available"... yes a wood parapet and a shotgun will stave off locals / wild animals... but who's going to stand a 4 hour shift guarding in -30? and if the local law come after you in an apc with ak's will a wood parapet and a few shotguns still seem adequate? or maybe the people in the commune will carry armfulls of bricks and sacks of cement on the 90 min bus ride then the long field walk to fence off 25 acres securly....
Middle of no-where, no power also = no sewage... i assume their are cess pits...
yes, or a hole in the ground!
but whats the cost to get a cess pit emptied? whats their equivalent of council tax? - the money to buy the property can be raised but whats the running costs....
there is no council tax but around £100 to pay for the land each year, this is to the equivalent of the council and for that that you can request someone come to clean the forest of dead wood and dead trees
Great plan but before it could become more than an idea you would need:
1) An understanding of latvian law, charges and taxes.
ive latvian friends who can help with this, 2 friends even thinking of joining the community, they are in UK now and dont like it here
2) several people with agricultural skills, teaching skills (as families are talking about this), building skills, electronic skills, stock handling skills (to stock up wood & food alone for 30 people over 5 months and ration it is a hell of a task), medical skills incase of injury, mechanical skills....
hopefully the people who join the community will cover these skills
cash is a lot easier in latvia. just think that the average wage in latvia is £100 per month, no benefits. cash goes a long way outside of the city
4) stock - how much are animals... how much is feed to keep the animals (and don't say we can grow it to grow animal feed and human food for 30 people on 25 acres would be very difficult... 1 bad crop and you'd be doomed).
latvian prices: cow £300 sheep £60 hen £1 pig £40
potatoes: £130 for 1 tonne!
5) Brewing skills - we'd need to drink!
nice fruits to be found for wines
6) everything else i've forgotten on this list!
If this was properly thought out i must admit its an interesting prospect but at the moment it seems no more that a dream i'm afraid
deffo not a dream. ive already lived there for 3 months and will go back and live there alone, by myself if necessary! but i have 4 other people who are definately interested in this and will be going there
ohhh and p.s. where do i buy latvian chickens?... could make a killing as all the rest of the chickens in the world usually lay for only 5 out of 7 days not every day
i guess you buy latvian chickens from China. look underneat the chickens and you see a sticker that says made in china!
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