Earth Overpopulated? Rubbish, See This

[Tweedle Dum]

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread690764/pg1


Tweedle Dum

[markmoto]

I realy do think that we have become artificialy over polpulated due to the use of cheap fossil fuels, going back around 200 years ago the world supported only around 1 billion people, less than this before farming methods where developed, this changed when the use of cheap fossil fuels began artificial fertilisers mechanisation etc which has allowed the population to buldge to nearly 7billion which no sign of it slowing down.
If for some reason oil was to disappear it is my opinion that there would be a mass famine because we simply couldnt grow and move the amount of food that would be required around the globe fast enough. but having said that a natural balance would be found either way and it wouldnt be artificialy infllated as it is now.

[Geronimo]

I realy do think that we have become artificialy over polpulated due to the use of cheap fossil fuels, going back around 200 years ago the world supported only around 1 billion people, less than this before farming methods where developed, this changed when the use of cheap fossil fuels began artificial fertilisers mechanisation etc which has allowed the population to buldge to nearly 7billion which no sign of it slowing down.
If for some reason oil was to disappear it is my opinion that there would be a mass famine because we simply couldnt grow and move the amount of food that would be required around the globe fast enough. but having said that a natural balance would be found either way and it wouldnt be artificialy infllated as it is now.

So are you in favour of artificially deflating world population?

[markmoto]

How do you mean artificualy deflating it?

[Geronimo]

thats for you to answer...but maybe it follows if inflating it caused more then deflating it would cause less.

[Freeman Stephen]

What was the population of africa, the americas and central asia ... 200 years ago. And how was any parish information accurate in the more developed parts of the world, when people were mostly off grid. if they wanted to increase the population of the world, they would be telling us to get shagging, there used to 20 billion here. Its the same thing as the global warming scam.

[Papillon]

Both of the implied positions in this thread are true.

In absolute terms the Earth is very sparsely populated, if we only consider physical room.

AND the carrying capacity of the land is more-or-less proportional to the power (that is, energy per unit time) available to the average person. With a pre-industrial amount of power (or post-industrial, if political greens have their way) it might be a billion maximum, and an arduous and short life even for that small number.

An interesting fictional exploration of such a scenario is One Second After by William R. Forstchen in which the "die back" of the US population a year after an EMP attack is 90%.

With modern, totally failsafe, mini nuclear power plants (http://www.physorg.com/news145561984.html) everyone on Earth right now could have a comfortable standard of living and then some. Bucky Fuller paradise.

When fusion power arrives then maybe ten times that many human beings can live healthy, prosperous lives on Earth and a hundred times as many throughout the solar system.

[NewWorldDisorder]

Fusion power ??? We are truly devolving not evolving why on earth would you want to play with fusion when it has the capacity to destroy all life on earth faster than a Hollywood movie ???

The simple facts are that all 6.4 billion people on this planet could live in Australia with a 1/3 acre of land each and that still leaves the rest of the planet empty !!!!

[Papillon]

Why would fusion power "have the capacity to destroy all life on earth"?

[NewWorldDisorder]

Super heating anything to the temperatures required for Tokamak which reportedly are even greater than the internal core temperature of the sun is scary enough, lets not forget the magnetic jar that has to be there to encase this plasma which is even more powerful than the magnetic field of the earth.

What would happen if something went wrong? Would our magnetic pole be irreversibly disoriented? What in the case of a leak? Would the superheated plasma burn through to the core of the Earth?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVNqOS3HXuU