WW2 a HuGe Conspiracy.

WW2 a HuGe Conspiracy.

Postby freemanjack » Sun Oct 31, 2010 5:48 pm

I think this is an important enough subject to deserve its own thread. Hope you dont mind HuGe mate? My thoughts to follow....
HuGe @ disclose.tv wrote:
If Nazi Germany Had Anti-Gravity Tech. Why did they lose?


the nazis did not loose thats why !!!!!!

note : this isnt in exact 'commonly known' chronological order... i warn you that shit might be a bit off kilter time wise (to say the least) to the official version of events

if they had announced that they had won.. come 1945 and the end of the war... there would of been pockets of resistance all over europe to contend with... the german forces were far to weak and thinly spread to of even being able to put up an effective counter against sporadic resistance

just because history dictates that teh allies won doesnt mean that they won... history is written by the victors and not the loosers... so what if the victors decided that HISstory was to be documented 180 degrees from the truth because of there inability to defend their conquered lands ?

well if it was flip reversed and recoded differently... then there would be no need to defend against the evil nazi's who has just invaded your country and defeated your military would there... people would be joyus and have street parties perhaps ?




ooooh bugger !!... a bit like those :O

yeah yeah yeah... what-fucking-ever HuGe :nope:

too right its true... this is the mind control on a scale youve never seen before... and your currently living it... STILL !!!

yeah but a 180 degree about turn with that kind of shit is a bit much !!

is it ?... the way i see it... its the exact same tactic i see from every 'westernised' government and their promises and decisions... they say one thing... and do the complete opposite... im sure i dont have to compile a list of when this has happened on key / important moves for each country... the one example i will leave u with is the promise made to us english for a refferendum on the lisbon treaty... they KNEW what was gonna happen... we would of fucked it off

so what else is there ?

lets talk about the eu... errrr i mean... common meerkat... errr i mean... the treaty of rome... thats the fucker yeah... i knew id get there eventually

actually that isnt all the way back i could of went... the first step towards the nazis consolidation and centralization of power came in 1951 with the treaty of paris... just 6 years after the end of the war... unification was under way... this first step was industry... namely the coal and steel industries... quite important commodities for when your building an empire

1957 is the birth of the treaty of rome and the birth of the eec (european ECCONIMIC community)... did you see the slight of hand there ... 12 years after the end of the war which tried to unify europe ended... they begin uniting it or rather consolidating and centralizing it publically... this was a brave brave step to take soon after the war... all be it a little one...

since 57 the eec (or the ss as i prefer to call them )... has just as david icke to brilliantly puts it... totalatarian tip toed its way to what is its today... UNITED UNDER ONE FLAG, UNITED UNDER ONE GOVERNMENT, UNITED UNDER ONE BANKING SYSTEM

tell me... what was hitlers goals again ?... thats right... europe united under one flag, one government, one banking system... i can see the massive differences between then and today (he says with his tongue in his cheek )

then we have the countries who took part in the war...

germany... the instigators... how did that come about... the destruction of the vimar republic was just mind control... how do i know that ?... cos its exactly the same principle used in modern times by the military... they break you by destroying you mentally... then build you back up into a fighting machine...

the vimar republic incident is just that... the destruction of the peoples ego's (ie... who you are) till they were mentally shattered... then que an impressive come back... again playing with the ego... by the time germany was at its full might... ie... within the same generation... people went from seeing death and misery... to feeling like they were invincible in just a few short years... they again played on the human psyche to get what they wanted

why ?

cos they needed those very people to be willing to go to war... if you feel rock hard... youll fight any fucker... simple as

is / has this ever been seen before in history ?

damn right it has... your living the fucker !!!... this is why the GLOBAL economy is being fucked up from behind the scenes... we are being vimar republic'd... only slower so we dont recognise it

british... werent there at the start of the war... stood by and watched it all unfold before they (we ) decided to act (ACT being the optimum word... ACT of war... its not fucking real is it if people are ACTING... look the definition up)

if the nazis were that much of a problem / worry for the countries in europe... then why didnt the british and the french etc join forces sooner and go and fight the nazis in poland and nip it inn the bud before they got outta hand ?...cos they were told not too thats why... hitler and nazi germany had a job to do... so they were left to their own devices to get on with it... all be it for a bit of fist waving from those countries on the side lines... this pretendy fist waving is called... ACTING

russia... they were a bit of a late comer too... they fought back only when they were attacked / invaded... ooooooor so we are lead to believe... some this this was the germans biggest mistake... invading russia... or at least thats how HIStory records it... ill tell ya how HuGe records it in a bit

americans... aaah the americans... FINANCIERS of adolfs jollies across europe... they too were late comers into the THEATRE of war... theatre ?... acting ?... NOOOOOO... thats too fucking obvious innit ?... in addition... more late comers ?... this is getting to be a bit of a pattern innit ?... they americans werent supposed to enter the war... neither were the ruskies... so why did they ?... was it cos the british were getting their asses kicked... yeaah man... why ?... cos the nazi's were an technologically awesome goddam fighting machine thats why... and im not glorifying them in any way with that comment !!

yeah but that doesnt make sense ?

not until you start reading between the lines it doesnt... welcome to HuGe's history hour hehe

what you need to do is start looking at each bit... primarily how each bit unfolded... how they do shit today... and you get (yet again) what the icke-meister uses to sum up the organizations in his pyramids of power... " its just a russian doll inside a russian doll inside a russian doll "... the more intelectual of yous in here will recognise what icke just said as a metaphor for a fractal... co-fucking-incidence ?... i think not... its a tried and tested method for tptb... and its thus far been a hiiiiiighly successful one too... SO WHY CHANGE YOUR TICTACS IF THEY WORK ?... you dont... you stick with the same shit time and time again... why fix / change it if it has worked and it still works ?... you just dont do you ?

back to the financiers... we all know about who was used as the scape goat... prescott sheldon bush... hasnt he got one of those triple serial kilelr type names that just rolls of teh tongue, this is done for a reason... mind control... its rhythmic... so its easier to remember... prescot shel-don bush... lee har-vey oswald... dah dah dah-dah... bedooby dooby doowopbop... 4 beats ?... just like modern music...rythmically repeatative... its mind control... again on a fractalized level...

did prezza buzza do it on his own ?... nopes... so why just mainly him ?... well one major scalp is better than none isnt it ?... the public found out about this... they wanted someone to blame... and they were given what they wanted to shut the fuckers up... miiiiiind CONtrol... wooooo

so... who do we still have at the (public) helm of power in the states... the fucking bushes... they seem to of gone from strength to strength since prezza bush was publically sacrifced... they have become unbelievably more powerful...

yeah but HuGe theyre just business men... business is in their blood man

its to do with their fucking blood alright... related to the royal family... publically sacrificed... how else could they trust someone to completely toe the line and stick top the story unless he was one of their own ?... they dont wholey trust anyone but their own... how important was it that no-one american citizen found out the true extent of just how much the nazis were finaced... how woven into the fabric the nazi idealogies really (and secretly... optimum word) were ?... super dooper important... a risk to tptb's overall global status and sovereignty i suspect... if teh truth had outted fully about the us's nazi involvement... coo / civil war... without a fucking doubt

jack kennedy... in effect was a coo against their regime... and thus was deemed an enemy... and we all know what happened next dont we ?

so... lets look to whats happening in america today ?... errrrrm... is it...

THE SAME AS WHATS HAPPENING IN EUROPE.. IE... THE SAME AS WHAT THE NAZIs TRIED TO DO IN 39-45... all just co-incidence ?... nopes... its THE template innit ?... the template thats being applied the world over !!!

and what about us limeys then ?... where do teh tommies fit into this little scenario ?... quick answer to that one is by using a question... what nationality is the royal ramily ?... correct... german... next question... why did georgy porgy abstain from the throne ?... cos he was in love with a woman that he shouldnt of been in love with... NEER-ERRRR... wrong answer... use your loaf... georgy porgy pudding and pie kissed the girls and made them cry wahahahahaa

the real answer is cos he was too PRO-NAZI... and the british people could see where his allegiances laid crystal clear... this is why he was stood down from office... sorry... the throne

so why did the americans, russians and british get involved then ?

easy peasy lemon squeezy... adolf the little raskal deviated from the game plan didnt he ?... hitler went from being king pin of the pantomime... to being cast as the villain that needed sorting out... why... cos he found out that he was being taken for a bit of a bitch and then became a liability to tptb... maybe this is why he had an alledged hatred of the rest of tptb native race... ie... the jews ?

now dont get me wrong... im not suggesting hitler is an innocent in all this and he had justifcation to kill those all those jews... no way man... how can i ?... i dont even know if he did kill those jews or not... i didnt witness it and i aint taking any fuckers word that this is what happened... no way... how do i know this person is tellling the truth ?... who is this person anyway ?... are they really expressing actual history or are they just repeating HIStory ?... i dunno... i do know that HIStory repeats itself tho... and those who are proponants of the holocaust are also repeaters of HIStory

thats a bit much HuGe... you'll have the adl down here if you dont watch your lip ?

ooooh crickey... im cacking my pants... seriously... they are jam packed... NOT !!!

now im not having a dig at any jewish people... nor am i being religionist towards them (held back from saying racist... the term they and the adl prefer to use... which suggest they are a different race... in the same way as blacks differ from whites differ from oriental differ from middle eastern...they are not a race... they are a secularized idealogy... if they insist they are a race... then why dont they like answering questions about race ?... whoooooole new subject... so ill leave it there )

what i will concede and acknowledge about what happned is that there were an awful lot of jews held in concentration camps... or as i prefer to call them... prisioner of war camps... why call them this ?... well why not... they were being kept prisioner... at a time of war... and were held alongside people of their own nationality... just liek the british soldiers and american soldier predominately were... and the russian soldiers too come to think of it... even the german and japanese pow's were 'secularized' and kept with their own... even thos they were more or less identical setups... we refer to one only as 'concentration camps'... why is that ?

the reason i concede to thi happening is because i have seen the footage of those poor people looking like walking skeletons... however... given that i have seen imagry of mass jewish graves with people piled many many deep... i dont know for sure how they got there... there seems to be a stage missing that HIStory very kindly fills in for us so we dont have to... now... given the malnourished sate these jewish people and every other single pow were kept in (excl german pows in england & america... tehy were kept nice n healthy... hmm wierd he says)... and coupled together with the living conditions they lived (lived is a bad word... we kept) in... not forgetting also to bring into the mix the workload of all these poeple cos they were slave labour (v2 production... bridge ove rthe river qwai etc etc etc)... is it not beyond reason that many many thousands died of those exact and CRITICAL factors ive already mentioned ?

put that in context... the british who worked on the bridge ove rthe river qwai... the survivors of that have spoken about the horror they endured... BUT... cos our egos are still being carressed (not so much nowadays tho... they are on destroying that in order to absorb the uk into europe... the british ego for the was IS the ONLY thing preventing it happen !!!!!)... the amount of british soldiers that died doing the bridge is rubbed in our faces for sympathy reasons... i know that this figure is 20+ deaths per day... now if that is 20 deaths per day through stavation and exhaustion and disease... thats 140 a week... thats 7280 MINIMUM per year just from one pow camp...

i ask you... the hole these soldiers were burried in... how many layers of bodies would 140 bodies a week create over a given timespan ?... im sure it would be a few



now im not an out right holcaust denyer... rather im intelligent enough to realise that something just doesnt add up... and i base that opinion on the imagry i have seen of jewish mass graves and british mass graves... and considering 6 million jews died or so HIStory dictates... these two seperate 'types' of mass graves in fact look eerily rather similar... maybe if the germans didnt have to dig so many bloody holes to bury the holocaust victims they would of had the man power to win the war... cos is 7000 bodies in a grave is massive... then almost a thousand of those kind of large sites would of been needed... the maths dont add up... they have been manipulated to suit... mind control... do do dooo do... spooky spooky !!

getting back to what i was on about...

he was definately in on it all right... as was fatboy churchill the barbituate injecting drug addict... but... they werent the prime russian doll in that set tho were they ?... they were only told what they needed to know to achieve what was wanted from them... we call this compartmentalization today...so... if they use this tactic today and it is proving to be succesful when applied... dont you think its a bit nieve to think that they (tptb) just recently came up with this tactic and applied it to todays 'way of life' / society ?...

considering we see compartmentalization across the fucking board... in every deparment and level of the pyramid within a pyramid we see compartmentalization being utilized to the max... even YOU do it to your own... ie... christmas time... who is privvy to the actual contents of the kids presents ?... you or your kids ? (both usually... i was a right cunt for rooting about to see what i had heheh )

governments do it... the corporations do it... even the birds and the beeeeee's do it... lets do it... lets compartmentaliiiiiize :D

im sure i had something to add here... had to stop for a spliff... lost my track a bit.. it'll come back to me

im pretty sure that if a timeline of critical events is plotted out even from what we have been told is HIStory... we can easilly assertain when exactly hilter went off the rails... and when exactly tptb decided that he needed stopping

well you can... its when the british got involved as they did... you see... the british were supposed to surrender once the might of the nazi army had reached the english channel... but... hitler decided to go tonto long before this... and thus the might of the british and her fucking evil empire were sent to deal with him... only they got their arses kicked and driven further and further back...

they needed some assistance...

hitler had become far too strong for the plucky brits to handle... so they sent out an sos to their controlling warlords... who incidently were pissing themselves laughing... cos they were stinging the british people with massive loans to pay for all of this as well as still financing the nazi's...

why still finance the nazis tho if they had turned into a bad egg ?

ego... more specifically... the greed and the addictive feeling of powerfullness that is gleamed from it... they used the oppertunity to further milk every fucker dry... they thought they still had enough control over hitler to reel his scrawny little nazi neck when they felt like it... only it didnt work out that way did it ?

pearl fucking harbour

just as so many say about this... the willingness of the american people to get involved in another mans war in another mans back yard was not an option for them to even worth pondering over... but... the british getting their arses kicked all over... they needed the american military over there bolstering the efforts cos the game plan was in serious danger of going completely tits up cos of that fury lipped renegade

democracy and freedom were enough to bring them to war... which is why pearl harbour was staged... a direct attack against them would most certainly do it... and it did... and the rest is unnofficial history

the ruskies

well the ruskies... this is the bit i know the least about... i know very little about the war on the russian front... but... i am willing to step out of my comfort zone thos and offer so speculation here... he sez hahahahaha

the russians were brought in to as late comer to the panto in order to further tame the little square tashed bugger cos tptb werent taking any chances of this little back stabbing fuckwit getting his own way... this was their game they were playing... and they wanted their ball back

was this soley down to just wanting to ensure they definitely fuck hitler up... ie... 3 kids kicking shit outta 1 kid... or if hitler had actually become that much of a risk because of his efficinecy and his mind blowing advances in technology that they needed sheer power by numbers in order to make any leeway against the nazi might ?... i think it could quite easilly be both... it could also be that hitler had intercepted communications between tptb and tptb in russia... he knew that he was gonna be attacked from the russians... so why sit n wait... "we'll get in there rip their fucking heads off first... the cheeky cunts "

yeah man HuGe... hitler invaded russia and had advanced quite far into russian territory before they were thwarted by the extremes of the russian winter

im not disputing that fact at all... on contrary mr bond ... in fact... i think that bit of the fairy tale happens to be basically true... well i say true... i think its the least manipulated version of events... ie... based more closely on actual events before being processed / being made dizzy through the application of political spin in order to create for us our HIStory

yeah i acknowledge hitler attack russia first... the probabilty this is fact come from how far they reached with fighting in russia... however... there is room in that for russia to of attacked nazi germany... but were in fact once again out mighted by the technological gerries and driven further back and back and back into russia

then the fucking winter came... and the nazi war machine ground to a halt... maybe this was down to a lack of foresight when planning the scirmishes on the nazi behalf... maybe they forgot to put antifreeze into the flying saucers and the tanks... i dunno ?

what i do know is that the russians being russians were quite accoustomed to russian winters and were better prepared for warfare in what lay ahead when winter would arrive... they invent vodka ffs... they had to use this in the top gear talibanny truck when they went up the icelandic glacier and set that volcano off... they werent allowed to use chemical antifreeze cos of the risk of pollution... maybe the nazis ran outta vodka or whatever they used in those days as antifreeze... it is acknowledge that the nazi army stumbled when winter came... im happy with that explaination... its does seem logical... ive seen temps of -60 on pictures from moscow... and thats enough to ensure no monkey keeps a hold of their brass balls... as i say tho... im not sure of the actual events that led upto that fateful winter and the swinging of the pendulum of power into the russian favour

i wanna mention the financiers again...

now it wasnt until the nazis supply of oil ended up drying up that the tide of war swang back into the tptb's favour for good... im pretty sure this is true because it is backed up with teh nazis experimentation in trying to create a synthetic fuel to power their war machine... and they nearly fucking cracked it too by all accounts... and in such a small period of time too... this is another indicator in my eyes of just how supremely creative and efficent the nazi setup was... and guess what... the germans are still know for just that today... they are a bastion of efficiency, ingenuity and of quality... some things never change do they ?... why we all cant be like that... i dont fucking know

once these supply lines were severed thats when the nazis started on teh slippery slope to defeat... this is how desperate tptb were to shut him and his renegade activity down once and for all... this was more important than the money and feeling of power from impoverishing even further the peoples of germany for many a generation !!!!!!!!!!

but hark... there is more...

these supply lines... especially the oil... how did it get to germany from america ?.. thats right it went by sea... hmmm...

yup... it went by sea... all the way across the atlantic... in sufficent enough quantities to feed the nazi war machine... during the time the british were fighting them... under the noses of the largest most awesome naval armada ever seen in modern times (up until 194x)... which is owned and operated by the british... hmmmm... he sez again...

the atlantic is a naughty sized puddle to cross with god knows just how many much much smaller than today oil tankers too... isnt that a little odd ?... were the british told to keep away from this supply ?

whoooa... thats asking sommet asking us to believe that man HuGe...

is it ?... i got one word to counter that... vietnam !!!... what were those rules of engagement again that the americans ONLY had to adhere too ?... no attacking the russian supply convoys was it ?... seems like this is a preferred tactic to balance shit out a bit... or whats commonly known as... prolonging the agony

so in summing up... " its about time ffs HuGe man "... fuck you with knobs on...

the nazi's... they definitely won the war
the allies... they definitely won the war
hitler & co... maybe they were the only person to loose the war ?

how far up the nazi tree do the victors of ww2 go ?

i know its at least prince bernhard of the netherlands high... what rank was he ?

sorry it was a an extra extra loooooooong one... hope it gives you something to think about and discuss tho's



p.s. lol... just to add even more speculative fodder to the fire...

these rumours of extra terrestrial help that hilter might of had... you dont suppose it was cos these ets recognised that adolf had switched sides and they thought this could be an oppertunity to indirectly help rid humanity of this scurge ?
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Re: WW2 Brainfart (theory)

Postby freemanjack » Sun Oct 31, 2010 7:37 pm

Hats off to HuGe, a trully inspired bit of narative. Most of which I have come across in my own researches. What we are seeing here is the historical evidence of the elite using the banking cartels to puppeteer global events to forward their agenda. The selective carpet bombing of so many citys got rid of all those awquard medieval commercial bottlenecks. Great excuse to build the industrial military complex to its current omnipotence, avoiding all those silly questions about budget and neccessity. American bankers funding the Nazi war machine stemming from banking families from England and Germany. I was always dumbfounded as a kid in the post war era (joke) as to how German and Japanese manufacturing rose to such heights in the 50's and 60's. The last nail in the Empirical coffin of England. The death of nationalism, the birth pains of globalism. I think nazi and zionist labels are another false diversion, what we are talking here is satanists riding a wave of human misery. More later.
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Re: WW2 Brainfart (theory)

Postby freemanjack » Sun Oct 31, 2010 11:00 pm

the vimar republic incident is just that... the destruction of the peoples ego's (ie... who you are) till they were mentally shattered... then que an impressive come back... again playing with the ego... by the time germany was at its full might... ie... within the same generation... people went from seeing death and misery... to feeling like they were invincible in just a few short years... they again played on the human psyche to get what they wanted
I think this is entirely linked with the holocaust, it is a ying yang thing. Loved or feared by the populace, while simutaniously harvesting the enormous emotional energy of an entire race as it is tortured and enslaved. The Nazi party was founded on occult esotersm and fanatical humanism. The Allies were fundamentaly riddled with high ranking public masons, otherwize known as occultist satanists. Who were the good guys agian? Must have been the yanks with their lovely tratment of enlisted black servicemen. Or maybe it was us with the concientios leveling of Dresden with a firestorm followed by heavy high explosives. The Russsians then? Oh! I give up.
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Re: WW2 a HuGe Conspiracy.

Postby HuGe » Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:51 am

shits fucked up... and thats plausibly fucked up sounding enough to be not too far from away the trooft imo

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Re: WW2 a HuGe Conspiracy.

Postby M0JFK » Wed Nov 03, 2010 2:43 pm

The elite won because they control both sides, they owned Churchill, they owned Hitler, they Owned the lot so it did not matter who actually lost the battle because it was all a setup up from the get go.
The only loosers in reality was the people who lost their lives both German, British, Jap's for the bankers profits and social control.
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Re: WW2 a HuGe Conspiracy.

Postby HuGe » Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:18 am

M0JFK wrote:The elite won because they control both sides, they owned Churchill, they owned Hitler, they Owned the lot so it did not matter who actually lost the battle because it was all a setup up from the get go.
The only loosers in reality was the people who lost their lives both German, British, Jap's for the bankers profits and social control.


i could of saved myself a whole bunch of time and effort if id just said the above instead

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Re: WW2 a HuGe Conspiracy.

Postby Sikufanya » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:48 pm

I think you're right on that one.

Your original long post is riddled with inconstistencies, and inaccuracies, as well as some very odd suppositions.

However, the much more concise post probably says what you were trying to say in a nutshell.
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Re: WW2 a HuGe Conspiracy.

Postby freemanjack » Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:12 am

Sikufanya wrote:I think you're right on that one.

Your original long post is riddled with inconstistencies, and inaccuracies, as well as some very odd suppositions.

However, the much more concise post probably says what you were trying to say in a nutshell.

Easy to dismiss without supporting arguments. Riddled with inconsistencies? Elucidate please for us dullards lacking your incicive knowlege of this subject.
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Re: WW2 a HuGe Conspiracy.

Postby Sikufanya » Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:30 pm

I didn't really want to get into it, because I didn't want to detract form the really good comment that MOJFK made.

Well OK, let's start at the beginning. The nazis really won the war, conquering the allies countries and pretended they didn't so as to avoid having to put down the pockets of resistance.
As a little boy, I do remember my grandparents telling me they felt really confused as how we won the war seeing as how they clearly remember tanks with black crosses rolling down the street and men in coal scuttle helmets and ss badges on their collar bursting into the house, shooting their dad and dragging their mum away never to be seen again.
Oh no, hang about, I DON'T remember that because IT NEVER HAPPENED!!! So where's your evidence that the UK ever had troops on its soil, apart from The Channel Islands? Did the Nazis brainwash every single inhabitant of the British Isles?

On the other hand, thousands of allied troops, including my own grandfather clearly remember crossing the Rhine into Germany.

This does rather suggest your whole argument is completely erroneous, but doesn't detract from the point that MOJFK made.

Now for some silly word play with the words act and theatre. If you look up the word act in the dictionary, it does mention to behave as though playing a role etc, but the FIRST use in the dictionary says " A thing done, deed." See? A thing done, not a thing pretended to be done.
By your same logic, if someone goes in for an operation, they go to an operating THEATRE where a surgeon PERFORMS an operation.
Presumably then, he only pretends to give you a kidney transplant and the fact that you can then lead a normal life for many years without having to go for hours of dialysis 3 times a week is purely down to the placebo effect.

I really wish people would not over egg their arguments by adding in nonsense like this as it makes their real arguments less credible.

Georgy Porgy abstaining? Presumably you mean Edward VIII? and it's Weimar, by the way.

As to the Jews in POW camps. The reason they are called concentration camps and not POW camps is because that's what they were. A POW is a prisoner of war, i.e. an enemy combatant.
The POWs were not treated the same as concentration camp prisoners.
Germany signed and ratified the 3rd Geneva convention and for the most part (Soviet prisoners being a notable exception) they stuck to it,(unlike , as you say the Japanes, who did not ratify it and thought that surrendering was dishonorable and therefore prisoners deserved whatever treatment they got)

Many POW camps were run by the military. Stalag Luft for example is short for Stammlager Luftwaffe, meaning it was run by the Airforce. The prisoners were generally treated fairly. Their rations were a little short on nutrition but these were supplemented by Red Cross and other food parcels.
Under the Geneva convention, the Red Cross were allowed access to the camps, delivered parcels and enabled communication between prisoners and their families who were sometimes able to send food parcels. These parcels WERE distributed to the prisoners. (The great escapers dug their tunnels with shovels made from the empty tins of milk from Red Cross Parcels for example)

Some of the items in Red Cross parcels, such as chocolate were practically unknown to regular civilians in the UK or Germany.
Read Airey Neave's account of his escape from Colditz as to what trouble you might get into if you forgot this little fact.

The camps where political prisoners or "undesirables" (jews, homosexuals, gypsies, criminals, mentally ill etc) were known by the Germans as Konzentrationslager or concentration camps.
Their treatment was horrendous and certainly cannot be compared to POW treatment. For example, when POWS were transported, packed into cattle trucks, they were given regular stops every few hours for water and toilet stops at least, if not food. Concentration camp prisoners were subjected to days or weeks, cramped up much tighter with no water, food, or toilet stops.

A lot of these camps were slave labour camps where these malnourished prisoners were force to work and killed if they didn't work fast enough.
Some of these camps, Auschwitz-Birkenau, Treblinka, Belzec, Chelmno, Madjanek and Sobibor were specifically extermination camps.

You are saying that there should be many more mass graves but are overlooking that most of these camps had large furnaces. Firstly, after a while, they stopped burying bodies and started burning them. You can easily fit at least 30 cremated bodies in the same space as 1 buried one. Plus the Nazis, under Sonderaktion 1005 started to dig up the mass graves and cremate all the bodies.
This should explain your maths that didn't add up.

As to the British having the largest naval Armada, well, in between the wars, the USA had overtaken most countries to become the largest navy, and then got everyone else to sign quota agreements so if Italy say, built 3 ships the USA could build 5. Sneaky eh?
By 1943, the US Navy was larger than the combined fleets of ALL other combatant Nations in WWII. This was apparently where they stood in 1937: http://www.oldmagazinearticles.com/1930 ... aval_power


But that isn't to say that you don't have some really good points and, as was summed up nicely:

The elite won because they control both sides, they owned Churchill, they owned Hitler, they Owned the lot so it did not matter who actually lost the battle because it was all a setup up from the get go.
The only losers in reality were the people who lost their lives both German, British, Jap's for the bankers profits and social control.

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Re: WW2 a HuGe Conspiracy.

Postby freemanjack » Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:02 pm

You are saying that there should be many more mass graves but are overlooking that most of these camps had large furnaces. Firstly, after a while, they stopped burying bodies and started burning them. You can easily fit at least 30 cremated bodies in the same space as 1 buried one. Plus the Nazis, under Sonderaktion 1005 started to dig up the mass graves and cremate all the bodies.
This should explain your maths that didn't add up.
How many Bthu/KWh does it take to incinerate a human body???????
Answer....
More than the German military would ever have allowed to be used during a major war on multiple fronts with NO local fuel oil supplies.
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