Joanne...a sacrifice to Yeats?saturnalia ritual?

Re: Joanne...a sacrifice to Yeats?saturnalia ritual?

Postby masonfreeparty » Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:09 pm

bodge wrote:You really are a loony :shock:


why? always best to look deeper into things...random killings are rare


1939

Most temples of the A.O. and the Stella Matutina become dormant (with the exception of the Hermes Temple in Bristol which worked sporadically until 1970 and the Whare Ra temple in New

Zealand which lasted into the late 1970's).



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Re: Joanne...a sacrifice to Yeats?saturnalia ritual?

Postby masonfreeparty » Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:11 pm

wow! you moved this thread quick...assholes!
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Re: Joanne...a sacrifice to Yeats?saturnalia ritual?

Postby bodge » Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:14 pm

Well it is only a theory unless you can prove otherwise and if you can why dont you call the incident centre? I am sure they would love to have new input.
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Re: Joanne...a sacrifice to Yeats?saturnalia ritual?

Postby masonfreeparty » Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:19 pm

Geronimo wrote:
bodge wrote:Joane Yeates was murdered in Bristol over xmas period. (nowhere near saturn by the way)


MFP needs to get a grip or take less water with it..or more medication..this is a terrible thing to suggest about the poor girl..



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Re: Joanne...a sacrifice to Yeats?saturnalia ritual?

Postby masonfreeparty » Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:33 pm

1996

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1996

An agreement is reached between the two parties agreeing to share the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn® trademark internationally in an equal basis.


1997

Due to the publication of the rituals and teachings of the original Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn (H.O.G.D.) by Aleister Crowley and Israel Regardie, a host of groups arise on the internet creating public confusion by calling themselves "Golden Dawn," yet offering their students little or nothing more than the aforementioned published material. Certain of these groups replace physical initiation in real temples with the dubious practices of so-called, "self" or "astral" initiation. Others dilute original H.O.G.D. teachings by mixing them with outside traditions like Martinism or Thelema. The worst of these groups, Robert Zink's so-called, "Esoteric Order of the Golden Dawn," engages in cult-like practices and introduced dangerous, non-traditional practices like blood sacrifice, and the ritual scarring and flogging of candidates. Zink's "E.O.G.D." nonetheless preys on an unsuspecting public by improperly marketing itself as "Faithful to the classical traditional Golden Dawn tradition" and even as "Guardians of the True Golden Dawn.

1998

Cris Monnastre retires from the Golden Dawn, withdrawing from her partnership with Griffin, and leaving Griffin in charge of the order.

1999

January - David Griffin is advanced through the 7=4 Grade of the Golden Dawn's Second Order (R.R. et A.C.) at the Ahathoor Temple No. 7 in Paris. Multiple lines of lineal affiliation deriving from the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn and derivative orders are transmitted to Griffin, who is additionally consecrated as a Gnostic bishop. Griffin takes the initiatic name of Frater Lux Ex Septentrionis. Griffin's Golden Dawn order (formally Monnastre/Griffin's) is merged into the Paris headquartered H.O.G.D. presided over by Marquis Nicholas Tereschenko and Jean-Pascal Ruggiu, with Tereschenko, Ruggiu, and Griffin as its international Chiefs.
March - Griffin's "Ritual Magic Manual" is released by Golden Dawn publishing, making the magical system of the R.R. et A.C. more readily available to practicing magicians in a user friendly format.
Vernal Equinox - The European headquartered, H.O.G.D. decides to further differentiate itself from the host of groups calling themselves "Golden Dawn, yet having no legitimate connection to the original Golden Dawn and offering their students little or nothing more than the material published by Israel Regardie. Their Second Order, the R.R. et A.C., therefore proclaims the "Reformatio Fraternitatis Anno 1999," according to an ancient rule of the Rosicrucian fraternity, which requires a general reformation of the fraternity every one hundred and eleven (111) years. The previous general reformations had occurred in 1888 (year of the founding of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn as well as of two other Rosicrucian orders in France), 1777 (the year of the general reformation of the Gold und Rosenkreutz order in Germany), 1666, etc. In the 1999 reformation, the R.R. et A.C. moves all published material to its outer order, the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn. Next, using pre-Golden Dawn Hermetic and Rosicrucian esoteric transmissions, the R.R. et A.C. prepares a completely traditional (yet secret and unprofaned) magical and alchemical curriculum to replace the material profaned through publication by Regardie and Crowley.
In this manner the European headquartered H.O.G.D. distinguishes itself from the host of groups contemporaneously calling themselves Golden Dawn, yet offering little or nothing in their Second Orders beyond well-known, published material. Moreover, inclusion of Hermetic alchemy in the reformed R.R. et A.C. curriculum further distinguishes it as the only extant Rosicrucian Order teaching and practicing all three disciplines of the "Trivium Hermeticum": astrology, theurgy, and alchemy.

2001

Marquis Nicholas Tereschenko passes.
E.O.G.D. (Esoteric Order of the "Golden Dawn")cult leader, Robert Zink, is exposed as having sexually abused and impregnated the under aged child of a female E.O.G.D. member. Zink denies this, but the bereaved grandmother publishes the birth certificate as proof.

2002

Leaders of the European based, Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn are contacted by and again meet with representatives of the same order referred to by Mathers as the "Secret Chiefs" in Paris once again. At this meeting, Golden Dawn leaders are given everything for the "Third Order" that had been planned by them for the Golden Dawn since its inception in 1888. These materials include the initiation rituals for the Golden Dawn's three highest grades (called "Magisteria"); Magister Templi (8-3), Magus (9=2) and Ipsissimus (10=1). Golden Dawn leaders are additionally given the complete curriculum of these higher grades; a vast esoteric corpus that includes not only the elementary sexual practices of Hermetic Inner Alchemy and Alchemical Magic once given to Mathers for the first Magisterium (Magister Templi), of the Golden Dawn's projected Third Order, but also the continuation and culmination of these teachings for the second and third Magisteria (Magus and Ipsissimus).
Hermetic "Inner" Alchemy represents the capstone on the pyramid and comprises the highest teachings of the Western esoteric tradition. This alchemical practice uses the subtle fires of the body, including love and sexuality, to transmute the "lead" of the physical body (or "Prima Materia") into the "gold" of a solar body, into which the Adept projects his or her consciousness at the moment of death, thus becoming consciously immortal.
David Griffin (G.H. Frater Lux Ex Septentrionis) and Jean-Pascal Ruggiu (G.H. Frater Lux Aurore) are initiated into the First Mageristeriun, 8=3, and are further chartered, granted the original Hermetic and Rosicrucian lineal affiliations previously transmitted to Kenneth MacKenzie, with which the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn was originally founded in 1888.
This fully distinguishes the European headquartered, Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn® from the modern, Regardie-based "Golden Dawn" groups that "dead end" with the material published by Israel Regardie and Aleister Crowley, as the only order ever to teach and initiate in the entire "three order" system planned for the Golden Dawn since its inception in 1888, from the Neophyte (0=0) through the Ipsissimus (10=1) grades. To further distinguish themselves from the Regardie-based groups, although their First Order remains the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn.® (H.O.G.D.), and their Second Order the Rosae Rubeae et Aureae Crucis® (R.R. et A.C.), they additionally adopt the name given by Mathers to the superstructure of the entire three order system, the Rosicrucian Order of Alpha et Omega® (also called the Alpha et Omega or A.O).

2003

Following the public announcement of the European headquartered Golden Dawn having received the Third Order initiation rituals and curriculum from the "Secret Chiefs" in Paris, Griffin is once more subjected to an orchestrated defamation campaign, including anonymously published attack websites using fabrications, false testimonials, etc., in an attempt to besmirch Griffin's character. The publisher of two such sites is eventually identified as Nagashiva Yronwode, an initiate of a Thelemic hybrid order licensed to use the Golden Dawn name in the U.S.A., calling itself the "Open Source Order of the Golden Dawn" (O.S.O. - G.D.). The O.S.O. - G.D. is further linked to the anonymous defamation campaign when its leaders, Joseph Max, Sam Webster, and Barbara Cormack, sign an open letter in an official capacity containing a diatribe giving explicit directions to one of these defamation sites. Robert Zink, leader of a Regardie-based "astral initiation" group licensed to use the Golden Dawn name in the U.S.A., the so-called the "Esoteric Order of the Golden Dawn" (E.O.G.D.), is additionally implicted in the proliferation of the "anonymous defamation websites," when Zink writes a long diatribe directing "Golden Dawn Blog" to one such site. This creates the distinct impression of a defamation campaign orchestrated between various Regardie-based "Golden Dawn" groups jealous of lineage.

2005

David Griffin is unsuccessfully sued for trademark infringement in the U.S.A., while the plaintiff meanwhile continues to use Griffin's mark in the European Union. Griffin files well founded counter-claims for breach of contract and tortuous interference in the internal affairs of the European world headquarters of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn.
Desmond Bourke passes. Immediately following Bourke's death, once he can no longer set the record straight or seek redress for libel, Pat Zalewski and others begin to attack Bourke's reputation and affiliations, circulating a letter which Zalewski falsely portrays as representing Bourke's having denied having any Golden Dawn affiliation to begin with.

2007

Trademark litigation is settled by the parties. The November 20, 1996 agreement, supra is superceded by the January 17, 2007 Settlement Agreement adopted by the U.S. District Court on February 12, 2007. The agreement remains under supervision of the court upon motion to Enforce by either party. Griffin and the European, international world headquarters of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn are recognized as the sole and exclusive owners of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn® trademark in the European Union (OHIM reg. 000063925) as well as of The Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn International® trademark in Canada (CIPO Reg. TMA510387). To avoid confusion with the other party, however, the European headquartered H.O.G.D. agrees to use the name Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, the outer order of the Rosicrucian Order of Alpha et Omega® in the U.S.A.
The European headquartered H.O.G.D.® publicly reveals that its Third Order curriculum includes Hermetic "Inner" Alchemy, which uses the subtle fires of the body, including love and sexuality, to transmute the "lead" of the physical body (or "Prima Materia") into the "gold" of a solar body, into which the Adept projects his or her consciousness at the moment of death, thus becoming consciously immortal. They further reveal the curriculum includes certain elementary sexual practices deriving from Hermetic Inner Alchemy and Alchemical Magic, that were once given once given to Mathers for the first Magisterium (Magister Templi).

These revelations spark a renewed round of controversy defamation against the order from the Regardie-based groups. Griffin continues to be disparaged on a website belonging to Aaron Leitch, member of yet another group.
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Re: Joanne...a sacrifice to Yeats?saturnalia ritual?

Postby kazz67 » Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:43 pm

masonfreeparty wrote:wow! you moved this thread quick...assholes!


It's in conspiracy theory where it belongs. What's wrong with that?
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Re: Joanne...a sacrifice to Yeats?saturnalia ritual?

Postby bodge » Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:47 pm

I think he is of the opinion that it should remain where he put it.
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Re: Joanne...a sacrifice to Yeats?saturnalia ritual?

Postby ForestNymph » Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:02 pm

Thanx for the compliment MFP, doing the role we were given, its what we are here for...................................... plus it IS a theory, so its in the correct place............................

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Re: Joanne...a sacrifice to Yeats?saturnalia ritual?

Postby masonfreeparty » Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:28 pm

from the icke forum...

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Well, I enjoyed Christmas - as much as any Mum can with all the shopping, cooking and 'nurtering' involved...I don't remember what Christmas dinner tasted like but it seemed to go down well - as did Boxing Day buffet which I also didn't 'taste' - weird!!

However, am enjoying the extended weekend-Christmas-holiday and the lack of traffic on the roads!

Hope you are also enjoying the 'season' too.

There was a distinct 'lull' in interesting info over the past 3 or so weeks BUT with the appearance of Charlotte Iserbyt on Alex Jones last night (sorry to the Jones 'unbelievers' lol) - things have picked up enormously for me.

...so, our attention (in the UK) is sadly being drawn to the murder of Joanna YEATES:

Yeates:

This very interesting surname is of English origins, but is also prominent in Ireland. Mainly associated with the English West Country, the origination is generally topographical and describes one who lived by a 'geat'. This was a Scandanavian word which described not a 'gate', but a road. However the name can also be job descriptive or locational for one who came from a place called Yate. The surname as Gate, Gayte or Gates is also relatively popular, and has the same meaning and origin as Yate, Yates, Yeats, Yeates, and Yetts. The name is first recorded in the Anglo-Saxon Charters of 779 a.d. as 'aet Gete', however this is purely descriptive and in no way hereditary. Hereditary surnames were much later, and usually date from the 11th century. The earliest true recordings as a surname include those of Philip del Yate in the pipe rolls of Cheshire for the year 1260, and Robert atte Yates in the Assize Rolls of Norfolk in 1344. Rather later examples are those of Edwarde Yates who married Jane Atkinson at Thirsk, Yorkshire, on September 13th 1583, Lawrence Yate of Nether Darwen, Cheshire in 1606, and John Yeats, who married Ann Davis at St Georges Chapel, Hanover Square, London, in 1753. 'Mr Yates' is recorded in the records of 'Elizabeth Cittie, Virginea' in February 1624, making him one of the earliest settlers to the American Colonies, whilst the poet William Yeats and his brother Jack, were both born in Dublin in Victorian times. The first recorded spelling of the family name is shown to be that of Hereward de Jette, which was dated 1198, in the "Pipe Rolls of Gloucestershire", during the reign of King Richard 1, known as "The Lionheart", 1189 - 1199

http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Yeates

Obviously, the name Joanna is a female version of John as in Oannes or John the Baptist..... I'll leave it at that for the more curious - but before I do - why the constant repetition of the word 'ARCHITECT'.....

December 17th was the day Joanna was reported as 'missing'....:


Saturnalia

"Saturnalia was introduced around 217 BC to raise citizen morale after a crushing military defeat at the hands of the Carthaginians.[1] Originally celebrated for a day, on December 17, its popularity saw it grow until it became a week-long extravaganza, ending on the 23rd."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturnalia

Basically, someone was chosen to be the 'god' Saturn - ie treated like a 'god' and then slaughtered to ensure the crops etc for the following year.......


I was expecting an announcement about Joanna on December 25th....and sadly, sure enough, the 'announcement' was made early on the BBC of a body being found in the snow....

But why this particular 'murder'.....sadly there are too many other abductions and murders but this one is being 'used' by the 'media'....sorry if this offends anyone.

I'll leave it at that - just another murder (sadly) or something else.....??


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Re: Joanne...a sacrifice to Yeats?saturnalia ritual?

Postby hughlle » Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:34 pm

Just down the road from me, very upsetting. I've been sat around trying to work out just why someone would kill her. The now arrested landlord looks like a mental, i've seen him many times. As to the planets, can't really comment on them lot :p
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