Does this stuff ever actually work for so-called violators?

[Geronimo]

There is a world out there of books and learning materials. We also have free will. May I suggest using it.....???

There was a hint in the words in CAPS AND BOLD in my last post. It meant DON"T EXPECT SOMEONE ELSE TO DO IT FOR YOU... hence the word "INDEPENDENT". It was also followed by a statement that I knew saying that would be a waste of time. That has now been reinforced

I fear you misunderstand me, I, personally, dont need your help, advice, or henpecking...but you seem to be offering advice, why not go a little further and make it more of the practical kind other than "go research for yourself"

Btw i dont have any interest in the 'freeman' philosophy, if i wanted to waste my time id follow your advice!

[vanilla]

Simply because you don't understand the process does not make it corrupt...

For example they 'blah' on and on and on about 'common law' w/out having the first idea what common law even is!!
...
If I could give just one bit of 'advice' to 'freemen' it would be this: DO NOT BELIEVE WHAT 'GURUS' TELL YOU. GO DO SOME INDEPENDENT RESEARCH/STUDY!

In principle I agree with you, but it doesn't often work well in reality. Take your own situation, you're on a law degree (or have finished, not sure). It's a program of guided study organised by people who know what they're talking about.

The reason most of the freeman community haven't got a clue as to the reality of law is precisely because they did some independent research. They just didn't yet have the knowledge or guidance to filter the good information from the bad.

[Geronimo]

Simply because you don't understand the process does not make it corrupt...

For example they 'blah' on and on and on about 'common law' w/out having the first idea what common law even is!!
...
If I could give just one bit of 'advice' to 'freemen' it would be this: DO NOT BELIEVE WHAT 'GURUS' TELL YOU. GO DO SOME INDEPENDENT RESEARCH/STUDY!

In principle I agree with you, but it doesn't often work well in reality. Take your own situation, you're on a law degree (or have finished, not sure). It's a program of guided study organised by people who know what they're talking about.

The reason most of the freeman community haven't got a clue as to the reality of law is precisely because they did some independent research. They just didn't yet have the knowledge or guidance to filter the good information from the bad.

Well now they do! You and her must surely help the 'poor ignorant fools' on here who endeavour to make a stand with only one leg, unless your both just happy to tell people their wrong and you know why but they have to find that out for themselves...It really does seem like that...informed smugness.

Whats worse than someone telling you your wrong? Someone telling you your wrong but not telling you why.

Again i reiterate, not knowing the wrong or right of it is just another thing amongst billions of things im (knowingly) blissfully ignorant of and happy to remain that way.

I, personally, would not be beholding to such people as you two for all the knowledge in the "Alien book of old wives tales"

"Say it loud, im ignorant and proud" i think thats true"

[Deacus]

Are we supposed to believe we can not be free? The pavilion training that a poster in this thread has subjected herself too is a false positive, It is our responsibility to stand up against this corruption, is freedom on the planet we are born on not a right?
The servants that is our government have truly taken over the Mansion under instruction of the Bankers that think they can hide in the solace of the shadows, well not no longer, "we" know that this life is slavery, its not something we believe or have been told to think we feel it in our soul, "the system is doing me wrong & I will resist it at at almost any level" & we refuse to accept it whilst others wallow in there preprogrammed power.
"The ignorance of the mis-informed who are experts in being told what to think by professional liars"
Les Visable
When the tyrannical system is further enforced, most of the misinformed will wake up to something being wrong, but not understanding what, that's when the people of this forum will come to there own, we are spread thin due to propaganda & feel isolated but we the people will rise and rise we will to take what has been stolen from us back (country/culture/freedom)

[State-Property]

you're on a law degree (or have finished, not sure). It's a program of guided study organised by people who know what they're talking about

Yes. I wanted to know what the 'tricks of the trade' are. How else can we beat them if we don't understand what it is they are doing? I have no use for a LLB as I have non intention of lying on 'oath' to Elizabeth. But I DO have a use for the KNOWLEDGE/books it provides me: the same knowledge/books it provides practicing lawyers!!!

You have to be in it to win it... or, at least, dissect/challenge it (as is my purpose).

As for offering help, you may see I've listed some seminars on this very same website. What is covered is there for all to see.

You can lead a horse to water.... etc etc etc

Sx

[michael hambleton]

Hi

I am currently being intimidated by THE AUTHORITIES and know that they are doing under false pretenses, stretching reason beyond it's yield point. But I know that if we look at the answer to all attacks upon us and meet it with the violence that has been used in the past - say the Russian Revolution of 1917, then hanging deemed culprits in the streets, makes us no better than the oppressors that we seek to remove. Don't get me wrong, I know anger, but I also know that impetuous responses will leave more casualties and victims than achieve a perfect outcome. Empires and regimes are and have been toppled by new regimes that use ideals to further the ambitions of new tyrants.
Look into the past and better, then into your own hearts and find that right place that we all would like to be protected by. If your mind says headbutt someone, step back and think about what you are doing and the example that is being set to others. If you still want to head butt someone, then you are going to be a target for the same and more of it. Do we really want to fulfill scriptures that say that we will behave like animals in the streets in these times and give excuse for the total annihilation that is prescribed for this situation yet again....
So my problems, I have to deal with in a better way, if I can.
Kind regards and blessings to all.
Michael

[freemenorthants]

well i to add my worth, in parts this movements and common law may help in parts, knowing how words really me, ie, blacks law, means, cross use, a copy, when one has the money to get one, then when so called , i call them, powers that be, play game of chess with out lives, in any way, at least we able to have a go at trying to make sure our living souls have our lives in out control . if not fully still, it worked on a bank, i e on a common law, deed poll, i working on IN number, with dwp ltd, as all these so called powers that be are just ltd , compaines, with polices, only givern force of law, when we may sign any thing, always worth read small print, and i am hated by my so called officals, as they play the game, i am still learning, and hard work, but i will not give up trying, this site and others sharing thier thoughts links are worth a lot in past mths to me any way, police police man or woman, may try it on, like with me, when thye got my laptop, i know they knew some of blacks law, wording meaning, and so my partner , whoms not, was asked to sign to relise of my goods, i syaing you just recontracted with the police froced ltd, still hes no wiser,

[frogmanbrabs]

It is the Police FORCE that are the last line of defence between us the common people and them the PTB. If we can try to understand why a human being would want to oppress his fellow human beings by using force against him, maybe it will help us to move closer to solving the problem. The first priority must be to change the thinking of the Policy Officers into that of being a Peace Constable, and to remind them that they swore an oath.