Monarchy has had it's day bye bye

[Anglo-Saxon]

http://www.republic.org.uk


What are you doing on the 3 June 2012 Tpuc come and join us

http://www.republic.org.uk/updates/?page_id=297


20 March 2012

Supporters of the UK campaign group Republic have held an anti-monarchy protest outside the Westminster Hall, where Queen Elizabeth II was making an address to British lawmakers and politicians.


In her speech to both Houses of Parliament, the Queen said the commemoration of her 60 years on the throne known as ‘Diamond Jubilee’ was a chance "to come together in a spirit of neighbourness and celebration".

Anti-monarchy protesters and supporters of the campaign group Republic, which wants a "democratic alternative" to the monarchy, said there needed to be a debate about whether a hereditary institution was appropriate for the country in the21st Century.

"The role of head of state is too important simply to be chosen by an accident of birth," said Labour MP Katy Clark.

"It should not be a hereditary position that people are entitled to. We should have a say over who it is", the MP added.

The anti-monarchy group Republic believes that the Queen and her family cost British taxpayers five times more than what has been revealed.

Republic said it costs taxpayers more than £200 million each year to support Queen Elizabeth II and the rest of her extended family.

That is far more than the official figures released by the palace, which show the royals cost taxpayers just under £40 million per year.

The figures are based on the cost of providing security protection for the extended Royal family, the cost of royal visits to other countries and throughout Britain, and the income produced by vast tracts of lands and business enterprises held by the royals.

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ticking bomb

[HVYMTL]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXDlmzqzadU

Wow... just look at that MASSIVE group of people...
I bet the Monarchy are really scared now...

[primate72]

well from what i have worked out is that it is actually the politicians that have ruined this country,they have destroyed the monarchy to.even though she has only been a mascot.bought back each year to give the impression that we still have one.so that labour m.p is just making out we still have a monarchy.to those that still believe we still have one that is.im not a royalist,never have been never will be.everyone is equal in my eyes no matter how much money you have.we lost our monarchy hundreds of years ago.wasnt it king john that caved in to pope Innocent III after he was ex communicated.typical politician.they want us so to rely on them.nanny state.

[HVYMTL]

That's just about the size of it. Personally I am a monarchist, but not because I believe anyone is better than anyone else or any crap like that, but because I believe a country needs a king, a single person who is ultimately responsible, somewhere for the buck to stop so to speak.

Without someone in that position, the volatile action of unchecked and unrestrained democracy leads to utter absurdity as each and every politician involved in the process shirks all responsibility and worms out of all liability, resulting in an ever increasingly stupid and ridiculous pile of legislative garbage like we are seeing currently.

Just suppose we did become a proper complete absolute republic, what then? How would we be any more free? Look at America for a prime example, people naturally hate the concept of a monarch over there with a passion, but has it brought them freedom? NO ... If anything their system is even more overbearing and tyrannical than ours. We would be just like that and possibly more so already if it wasn't for the the restraining action the broken monarchy still partially effects on our decline into legislative insanity.

One thing we state for sure is that governments always grow like cancers on their host countries, if you start with the smallest possible minarchist government like America did, then it simply grows faster and gets bigger a lot quicker.

If someone could come up with a sure fire mechanism to keep the government in-check which didn't rely on the strength of character of individuals in office or of a ruling monarch then I'd love to hear it and possibly give it my support, but until then trying to reinvigorate and strengthen our crumbling monarchy is as far as I can see the only effective way of peacefully combatting the on going corruption and dehumanising degradation of our too-big-for-it's-boots parliament.

I'd say we need to get William to wake up.

[primate72]

i like the way you put it.yes i would go for that a monarch that is of the people.there has to be more of a connection between the people and the monarch,if we are to have a new king or queen then they have to be one of us.
coming from a working class background.that would be brilliant if that happens.i might just wave a flag too.

[HVYMTL]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-CFz9kYBJI

[frogmanbrabs]

The idea of a Monarch King or Queen will always take the assumption that they are above the rest of society and NOT equal. The reason that so many countries around the world are in the situations that they are is down to the people failing to speak out. In some circumstances it is due to fear and in others a lack of education while in others such as Britain it is down to a lack of interest. The British public tend to be more interested in what happens in Eastenders or The X Factor than the politics of the country in which they live. That is one reason why we have an unelected coalition government in office. When it comes to matters of Royalty people either forget or are not aware of the fact that our Queen took an oath and broke that oath when she allowed us to be subjected to European Laws. Nobody in the press or media will mention that because they are too busy licking Liz's backside in the hope that one day she might stick a ribbon on them which gives them the status of OBE or MBE or even Sir/Dame.
The next Monarch should be chosen by the public via a version of the X Factor then the people would take notice. Just so long as they don't vote for Simon Cowell things should be fine.

[stompy]

all in favour of prince harry taking the healm? not charles cause hes a bawbag and not william although hes fine in my eyes not done anything wrong but if its true hes the 666th 33rd degree freemason lets just take a fucking lesson in history and not take that chance, so harry? plus hes a weed smoker so hes already more in touch with most of us than the rest of his family, true he might have a shitty blood line on his fathers side but he has the blood of diana aswell so i say lets give him a chance!

[HVYMTL]

The idea of a Monarch King or Queen will always take the assumption that they are above the rest of society and NOT equal

our Queen took an oath and broke that oath when she allowed us to be subjected to European Laws.

Hold on just one moment... the democratically elected government made that treaty. IF your right that monarchs always take the assumption they are above everyone, then why did the Queen risk being charged with treason in order to destroy her own kingdom (Queendom doesn't sound quite right)?

On the one hand your complaining that the monarch is above politics, is not equal and can exert influence over politics and the will of the people as expressed through their elected representatives in Parliament, and on the other hand your complaining that the Queen didn't hold her self above the democratic process in order to influence it... make up your mind, do you want the game to have a referee or not?

Also consider that not going along with the EU might of resulted in another war in Europe, and also that the Queen may of been co-erced. If you believe Diana was murdered, then you have to admit if the Queen was told, "sign here or Harry get's it", she would probably, and quite understandably, sign the bit of paper. The Royals are not bullet proof, and their traditional role which worked in the age of castles and swords, is not so easy in this day and age.

Nobody in the press or media will mention that because they are too busy licking Liz's backside in the hope that one day she might stick a ribbon on them which gives them the status of OBE or MBE or even Sir/Dame.

What utter rubbish, for a start the documents proving that treason has been committed have only recently been released under the 30 year law (see the videos by Albert Burgess), for seconds the media is controlled and coerced by the very same people who are shoe-horning us into the EU anyway.

Just what do you expect the Queen to do exactly? If she interferes with the government, then she is a tyrant and a despot who doesn't want us to join the EU because it undermines her power and how dare she hold her self above the will of the people etc etc etc, and if she does nothing she is a traitor and has let us down... this is a untenable situation for a frail old woman to be in!

SHE'S JUST A HUMAN BEING AND SHE'S AN OLD WOMAN.. COMPRENDEZ?

all in favour of prince harry taking the healm?

In 1173 my ancestor Simon sided with Prince Henry the younger in a rebellion. It was quite a shock for me to discover that and the fact that Harry's real name is actually Henry, and I have a feeling that if it came to it, and for what little it's worth, I might well decide to back Harry if he decided to stand against his brother.

plus hes a weed smoker so hes already more in touch with most of us than the rest of his family

Always a good sign

true he might have a shitty blood line on his fathers side but he has the blood of diana aswell so i say lets give him a chance!

Actually there is some speculation that Harry is actually the son of James Hewitt.



As for "Shitty" DNA, thank you for the insult; apparently I've probably got a strand or two of that stuff myself, but I'll try not to let it make me feel superior to you or anything... ROFL.

[frogmanbrabs]

Firstly HVYMTL I did not say that the Queen was above politics she is the head of state. Secondly she took an oath which she has broken. No-one made her break that oath she did so willingly. Not going along with the EU might've resulted in another war is like saying if you don't wear a seat belt you might hurt yourself driving your car. The Law of this Land was written in the Magna Carta and that is still in effect today. Allowing some politicians in Brussels to decide on Laws which affect me and others in this country is no different to a dictatorship.
If you're happy to allow public money to the tune of £200 million a year to be paid to an old woman and her extended family, so that they can travel the globe waving and collecting bouquets of flowers then that's your choice. How many people are aware of the fact that the Queen has committed treason? If they were made aware would they seriously allow her to be hanged? No the reason being she's the Queen a lovely old lady who does wonderful things for this country of ours.