Is all this FREEMAN, FEE SCHEDULE etc stuff really TRUE?

[vanilla]

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/p_to_r/priv ... secutions/

[Geronimo]

Doesn't the "prosecution" still have to go before a justice of the peace? I ask this because while the police carried out arrests at Dale farm they are allowing the Council to prosecute them which seems to suggest the police will carry out arrests for private companies and then leave them to prosecute. The council have to put the arrestees before a JP to prosecute.

[Thomas]

"And before someone asks it is perfectly legal to prosecute a criminal case privately rather then get the crown to do it."

Based on what exactly? do you have a reference for this remark at all?
Fois
FN

Based on keeping people going around in circles, debating issues that will have no effect (the purpose of this debate; by the looks.) Unless enough people stand together and challenge the unlawful Jurisdiction etc.

[legaleagle]

Thanks for that vanilla, I was going to post the same one but no need. The link shows the procedure from the CPS's point of view. The right to prosecute privately comes from common law as obviously all prosecutions would have been bought by the (alleged) victim.

Geronimo to answer your question the process is the same as normal so yes you would still go before a justice of the peace/magistrate/judge or jury it is just who is paying for the prosecution that is different. It doesn't even affect who the barristers are much either as although the CPS does have it's own barristers most barristers are self employed and work both defence and prosecution depending on the individual case.

[HVYMTL]

They have misspelled my name throughout the documentation.

It's down as Simon Jamie ODELL.

Do you you think they are they trying to help me out?

[legaleagle]

I'm sorry but I'm not sure what the correct spelling of your name is. To give a broad answer if your name is Cooper and they spell it Jones then i'd say you have a good case, if your name is Stevens and they spell it Stephens then unless there is further mistakes then I'd say you will struggle to get a judge or magistrate interested.

[frogmanbrabs]

Apparently they can make changes to the paperwork in the courtroom. Mispellings and dates can be changed according to the duty solicitor I spoke to about my case. I replied so if that's the case they could call me in to answer a case of assault and then charge me with murder. Surely what's written on their paperwork and signed is gospel. If it's about your car HVYMTL then I suspect they will make deliberate mistakes to give you an option to get the case dismissed and thus save themselves face. Instead of saying it's a victory for the freeman they will say it was due to an administrative error.

[HVYMTL]

It's James not Jamie, what I mean is if I don't make a point of that then they are going to put the wrong name down on the records which are all computerised, and in the world of databases James and Jamie are NOT the same, thus the computers won't be able to tie up the judgement whatever it is with my real name. Also they have a similar slight error in the license number, which will cause the same effect.

It's quite subtle but for them it's also quite rebellious, which leads me on to the thought of what happens when our boys in blue start to get the bigger picture and join us in lawful rebellion... they are in a far better position to throw spanners in the works than we are!

[legaleagle]

If you are referring to databases such as the court records or the police national computer then they will be linked when they are put on. I once had a client who tried both constantly changing his name and spelling it very differently as in Robbart/ Robet etc. It was a pointless exercise the result of which is he has several linked records on court records. The number plate is a separate issue though (it is a unique number specific to that car) as if that is wrong on paperwork unless they have separate evidence (photographic evidence for example) then once the witness states the number plate in court it is that car and not your car you are talking about. If they realise what they have done before they state it in court then they can change it, but without further proof you or your legal advisor can challenge it quite successfully.

[HVYMTL]

I told them the original VRM.

It's my driving licence number that they have wrong.

Having been to court once before I'm aware just how disconnected from the event the judges are. Last time the statement read that my offence was driving along with someone stood up in the back of my soft-top ford escort cabriolet. (lies)

The judges wittered on about the car having a trailer in a dangerous condition... that Ford didn't even have a tow-bar!

The left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing!

They are going to be like, driving without insurance, how do you plead?, "guilty" ok, 6 points and x amount of fine... nexxxt!