Atos Medical - Home Visit

[freemenorthants]

i agree with your post. so i worked out, its another company to contract with them dwp ltd, i wrote prove i need to re- contract too be required too have a atos medical, as i do not give comsent to contract to atos ltd staff either, this worked as i had letter saying my transfer to esa, is done and no medical and ion support group, yet they failed to make clear i ment to get higher rate on top, so my letter head office london dwp legal department, asking for this to,

[Incensed]

i agree with your post. so i worked out, its another company to contract with them dwp ltd, i wrote prove i need to re- contract too be required too have a atos medical, as i do not give comsent to contract to atos ltd staff either, this worked as i had letter saying my transfer to esa, is done and no medical and ion support group, yet they failed to make clear i ment to get higher rate on top, so my letter head office london dwp legal department, asking for this to,

brilliant! Let us know how they respond

[ellsbells]

If you haven't seen this this has the actual contract between ATOS & DWP (2 private companies - someone I know used to work for DWP and it was actually referred to as a 'company') and has a list of conditions for which you shouldn't even be asked to attend a medical.

http://www.whywaitforever.com/dwpatoscontract.html

[dmgc01]

ellsbells wrote:

If you haven't seen this this has the actual contract between ATOS & DWP (2 private companies - someone I know used to work for DWP and it was actually referred to as a 'company') and has a list of conditions for which you shouldn't even be asked to attend a medical.

http://www.whywaitforever.com/dwpatoscontract.html

Good find!

Taken from the above link...

Medical Conditions and Categories

For the purposes of administrative scrutiny of cases to determine suitability for inclusion in the DLA in Medical Examination Centre project, 5 categories of case have been devised:

In 2005 the Welfare Reform Bill, which introduced the Employment and Support Allowance (ESA), had not yet been enacted hence the reference to the Disability Living Allowance (DLA).

1) Unsuitable for calling to a Medical Examination Centre.

2) Reference to Medical Advisor required for advice.

3) Tentatively invite to Medical Examination Centre.

4) Invite to Medical Examination Centre.

5) Any other Diagnosis.

For each category a list is attached.

1. Unsuitable for calling to a Medical Examination Centre.
Age >75 years

Age <12 years

Both Blind and Deaf
Registered Blind (needs to be seen in own environment)
Cases accepted under the Special Rules defining Terminal illness.
Alzheimers
Amputation of both legs
Asperger's
Autistic Spectrum Disorder / Autism
Cerebral Palsy
Dementia
Hemiplegia
Huntingdon's Chorea
Korsakoffs Psychosis
Macmillan Nurse attending.
Motor Neurone Disease
On oxygen
Paraplegia
Quadraplegia
Renal Dialysis
Severe Mental Impairment
Severe Learning Difficulty
Spastic Diplegia
Tetraplegia
Total Parenteral Nutrition
Unstable Angina
Wernicke's Encephalopathy

2. Reference to Medical Advisor required for advice.

AIDS
Astrocytoma
Bone Marrow Transplant
Brittle Bone Disease
Cancer
Cystic Fibrosis
Dermatomyositis
Glioma
Guillane-Barre Syndrome
Hodgkin's Lymphoma
Leukaemia
Liver Failure
Mental Retardation
Mental Subnormality
Multiple Sclerosis
Muscular Dystrophy
Non Hodgkin's Lmphoma
On Morphine / MST
Osteogenesis Imperfecta
Parkinson's Disease
Poliomyelitis
Polymyasitis
Registered partially sighted
Respiratory Failure
Rheumatoid Arthritis
Schizoaffective Disorder
Schizophrenia
SLE
Spinal Injury
Systemic Lupus Erythematosis
Scleroderma
5evere Depression
Thallassaemia

3. Tentatively invite to Medical Examination Centre.

Agoraphobia (offer taxi)
Anorexia Nervosa
Ataxia
Bipalar Affective Disorder / Bipolar Disease Manic Depression
Burns
Cardiomyopathy
Cerebrovascular Accident / CVA
Cerebrovascular Disease
CFS
Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
Crohn's Disease
Diabetic Neuropathy
Eating Disorder
Fibromyalgia
Haemopphilia
Heart Transplant
Hemiparesis
Learning Difficulties
Leg Ulcers
Myalgic Encephalomyelitis / ME
Obsessive Compulsive Disorder
Peripheral Neuropathy
Phobic Anxiety
Sickle Cell Anaemia
Social Phobia
Spina Bifida
Stroke
Subarachnoid Haemorrage / SAH
Ulcerative Colitis
Varicose Ulcers

4. Invite to Medical Examination Centre.

Alcohol Dependence
Anaemia
Angina
Ankylosing Spondylitis
Anxiety
Arrythmia
Asthma
Atrial Fibrillation
Back Pain
Bronchiectasis
Bulimia Nervosa
Cardiac Arrythmia
Cervical Spondylosis
Chronic Bronchitis
Chronic Obstructive Airways Disease
Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
COPD
Coronary Artery Disease
Coronary Heart Disease
Depression
Dermatitis
Diabetes
Diverticular Disease
Diverticulitis
Dizziness
Down's Syndrome
Drug Dependence
Eczema
Endometriosis
Epilepsy
Hearing Impairment
Hernia
HIV
Hypertension
Hyperthyroidism
Hypathyroidism
Hysterectomy
Incontinence
Ischaemic Heart Disease
Irritable Bowel Syndrome / IBS
Joint Pain
Kyphosis
Kyphoscoliosis
Labyrinthitis
Liver Transplant
Lumbar Spondylosis
Meniere's Disease
Migraine
Myasthenia Gravis
Neck Pain
Osteoarthritis
Osteoporosis
Overactive Thyroid
Panic Attacks
Pelvic Inflammatory Disease
Peripheral Vascular Disease
Personality Disorder
Prolapsed Intervertebral Disc
Psoriasis
"Registered Alcoholic"
Renal Transplant
Rheumatic Heart Disease
Scoliosis
Slipped Disc
Underactive Thyroid
Valvular Heart Disease
Varicose Veins
Visual Impairment

5. Any other Diagnosis.

Not listed above should be referred to a Medical Adviser for advice

[Geronimo]

ellsbells wrote:

If you haven't seen this this has the actual contract between ATOS & DWP (2 private companies - someone I know used to work for DWP and it was actually referred to as a 'company') and has a list of conditions for which you shouldn't even be asked to attend a medical.

http://www.whywaitforever.com/dwpatoscontract.html

Good find!

Taken from the above link...

Medical Conditions and Categories

For the purposes of administrative scrutiny of cases to determine suitability for inclusion in the DLA in Medical Examination Centre project, 5 categories of case have been devised:

In 2005 the Welfare Reform Bill, which introduced the Employment and Support Allowance (ESA), had not yet been enacted hence the reference to the Disability Living Allowance (DLA).

1) Unsuitable for calling to a Medical Examination Centre.

2) Reference to Medical Advisor required for advice.

3) Tentatively invite to Medical Examination Centre.

4) Invite to Medical Examination Centre.

5) Any other Diagnosis.

For each category a list is attached.

1. Unsuitable for calling to a Medical Examination Centre.
Age >75 years

Age <12 years

Both Blind and Deaf
Registered Blind (needs to be seen in own environment)
Cases accepted under the Special Rules defining Terminal illness.
Alzheimers
Amputation of both legs
Asperger's
Autistic Spectrum Disorder / Autism
Cerebral Palsy
Dementia
Hemiplegia
Huntingdon's Chorea
Korsakoffs Psychosis
Macmillan Nurse attending.
Motor Neurone Disease
On oxygen
Paraplegia
Quadraplegia
Renal Dialysis
Severe Mental Impairment
Severe Learning Difficulty
Spastic Diplegia
Tetraplegia
Total Parenteral Nutrition
Unstable Angina
Wernicke's Encephalopathy

2. Reference to Medical Advisor required for advice.

AIDS
Astrocytoma
Bone Marrow Transplant
Brittle Bone Disease
Cancer
Cystic Fibrosis
Dermatomyositis
Glioma
Guillane-Barre Syndrome
Hodgkin's Lymphoma
Leukaemia
Liver Failure
Mental Retardation
Mental Subnormality
Multiple Sclerosis
Muscular Dystrophy
Non Hodgkin's Lmphoma
On Morphine / MST
Osteogenesis Imperfecta
Parkinson's Disease
Poliomyelitis
Polymyasitis
Registered partially sighted
Respiratory Failure
Rheumatoid Arthritis
Schizoaffective Disorder
Schizophrenia
SLE
Spinal Injury
Systemic Lupus Erythematosis
Scleroderma
5evere Depression
Thallassaemia

3. Tentatively invite to Medical Examination Centre.

Agoraphobia (offer taxi)
Anorexia Nervosa
Ataxia
Bipalar Affective Disorder / Bipolar Disease Manic Depression
Burns
Cardiomyopathy
Cerebrovascular Accident / CVA
Cerebrovascular Disease
CFS
Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
Crohn's Disease
Diabetic Neuropathy
Eating Disorder
Fibromyalgia
Haemopphilia
Heart Transplant
Hemiparesis
Learning Difficulties
Leg Ulcers
Myalgic Encephalomyelitis / ME
Obsessive Compulsive Disorder
Peripheral Neuropathy
Phobic Anxiety
Sickle Cell Anaemia
Social Phobia
Spina Bifida
Stroke
Subarachnoid Haemorrage / SAH
Ulcerative Colitis
Varicose Ulcers

4. Invite to Medical Examination Centre.

Alcohol Dependence
Anaemia
Angina
Ankylosing Spondylitis
Anxiety
Arrythmia
Asthma
Atrial Fibrillation
Back Pain
Bronchiectasis
Bulimia Nervosa
Cardiac Arrythmia
Cervical Spondylosis
Chronic Bronchitis
Chronic Obstructive Airways Disease
Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
COPD
Coronary Artery Disease
Coronary Heart Disease
Depression
Dermatitis
Diabetes
Diverticular Disease
Diverticulitis
Dizziness
Down's Syndrome
Drug Dependence
Eczema
Endometriosis
Epilepsy
Hearing Impairment
Hernia
HIV
Hypertension
Hyperthyroidism
Hypathyroidism
Hysterectomy
Incontinence
Ischaemic Heart Disease
Irritable Bowel Syndrome / IBS
Joint Pain
Kyphosis
Kyphoscoliosis
Labyrinthitis
Liver Transplant
Lumbar Spondylosis
Meniere's Disease
Migraine
Myasthenia Gravis
Neck Pain
Osteoarthritis
Osteoporosis
Overactive Thyroid
Panic Attacks
Pelvic Inflammatory Disease
Peripheral Vascular Disease
Personality Disorder
Prolapsed Intervertebral Disc
Psoriasis
"Registered Alcoholic"
Renal Transplant
Rheumatic Heart Disease
Scoliosis
Slipped Disc
Underactive Thyroid
Valvular Heart Disease
Varicose Veins
Visual Impairment

5. Any other Diagnosis.

Not listed above should be referred to a Medical Adviser for advice

What about having more than one ailment in the Invite to Medical Examination Centre section?

I have a dear friend who is usually pissed as a newt and he has Alcohol addiction, Asthma, Angina, Back pain, Depression, Hypertension, IBS, Joint Pain, Panic attacks, Personality disorder, and a tendency to want to hug and kiss you as the best in the world! He probably has more ailments but hasn't been further diagnosed as he now refuses to go to the doctor because of all the "bad news"

[dmgc01]

Okay going to try to keep a level head and bring information that I have learnt today.....outcome of my appeal at Tribunal was that it was disallowed.

Going to be polite and exclude expletives

So facts are that even though your doctor has confirmed that you are unable to seek employment due to illness you have been told by the hierarchy that you are fit for work.

Anyway this is for anyone going through this situation and I would like to share what I learnt today.

To start - if you sign that you are “not fit” to seek employment (because your doc says so) – then you cannot sign up for JSA.

If you wish to contest the appeal at Tribunal decision then you can appeal to the Upper Tribunal. Before doing this you firstly need to apply in writing and request a statement of reasons for the Tribunals decision (as you won’t be given this beforehand). Bear in mind that you cannot claim ESA whilst appealing to the upper tribunal.

You can of course... make a new claim immediately for ESA – “IF”- you have a new illness. Check out your original claim. If subsequent illnesses have proceeded because of your original illness then a new claim can proceed.

If anyone is going through this experience I am more than happy to share any knowledge I find.

Blimey don’t think I swore once

[mizz]

This is simply about getting the benefits bill down and nothing more,just another attempt by the Tory government to screw over the poor and most disadvantaged.

[JoboPooks]

I feel that all DWP medicals should be recorded audio/visually if the person being examined wishes so, but this won't happen. I was subject to a DWP/ATOS medical after a serious spill and the ATOS doctor lied through his back teeth. I took it to a tribunal and wiped the floor with them. At one point, the DWP's rep was actualy arguing with the DWP doctor and almost telling him he was wrong. This doctor really got the hump and it was funny watching them thrash it out.

Even after I won my case and retrieved a shed load of points back, the DWP still tried to prevent my return to my original position by lying to me over the phone, telling me that Gordon Brown had changed the law. These people must tar everyone with the same brush in thinking they are thick. I feel for those people who haven't got the intelligence, education or courage to be able to fight against this monster and sites like this are a great source of info for them. Way to go to all those who give up their time here to help others who are struggling and especially for Leagle Eagle who could be like a lot of other legal professionals in their snootiness.

Snootiness......Is that a word?

[frogmanbrabs]

I just got a letter this morning off the DWP telling me that my ESA has been stopped after a recent medical examination at Atos found me fit to work. At no time did the interviewer examine me and as I understand he was not a medical professional which he pointed out to me at the start of the interview. Atos are a French company operating for profit and are paid on results,ie the more people they can get off the benefit system the more they will be paid. Surely it's a bit like tellin a copper the more people you arrest the more you'll get in bonuses, what do you expect him to do?

[JoboPooks]

I just got a letter this morning off the DWP telling me that my ESA has been stopped after a recent medical examination at Atos found me fit to work. At no time did the interviewer examine me and as I understand he was not a medical professional which he pointed out to me at the start of the interview. Atos are a French company operating for profit and are paid on results,ie the more people they can get off the benefit system the more they will be paid. Surely it's a bit like tellin a copper the more people you arrest the more you'll get in bonuses, what do you expect him to do?

It works like this: If you are totally paralised and all you can do is lie down and blink your eyes then you can do computer work......