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uk governments "arbiet macht frei" program

Postby simlmx » Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:36 pm

The governments "mandatory work programme" has very much in common with hitlers own forced labour program for the unemployed, the only real difference being that whereas that in the uk if "claimants" refuse to enter the programme they will lose their benefits which go towards their food and board expenses whilst living on the plantation that is known as the uk. whereas if the german unemployed refused to enter the forced labour program, the next thing they would likely see is the "arbiet macht frei" sign as they were sent off to aushwitz or some other nazi concentration camp.

The unemployed in the uk are being scapegoated during these times of austerity (fascism). It's completely the wrong thing to be doing, if successive governments were'nt serving the goals of their paymasters it's a certainty that unemployment would be extremely low in this country, if a capitalist system existed that is. i know alot of people on this website are not huge fans of capitalism, but i always say try something first before you denounce it.

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Re: uk governments "arbiet macht frei" program

Postby bodge » Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:07 pm

The "back to work programme" mate is absolutely nothing more than the manipulation of unemployment figures. All the people who get put on the "back to work" programme are taken OFF the unemployment list so that the men in suits can say "We have reduced the figures of those on a type of benefit.

Unemployment is so necessary because it is inextricably linked to inflation. If "Employment" rises so then "Inflation" also rises :o as employment figures go up, inflation follows that number in an upward curve and this curve is a graph in the chancellors office of monetarist policies and its called the "Augmented Expectations - Phillips Curve" it displays the national figures and gives a quick understanding of how things are going. Now then, as inflation begins to rise, "employers" "expect" to have to pay out more of their money and then lay people off and as there is then less money around to spend (because everyone is out of work) "Inflation" is caused (cause and effect). In the 1960s we had a period of stagnant inflation and it was rhetorically described as "stagflation" and this is when the augmented expectations phillips curve was "designed". However the monetary policies of the "system" is a "Theory" its called "Monetarist Theory" and thats an indicator of why the "system" doesnt actually work properly.
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Re: uk governments "arbiet macht frei" program

Postby skweeker » Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:08 pm

Real capitalism is just fine & dandy, the problem we have, however, is that we don't live under a capitalist system anymore (if we ever did). What we have is corporate fascism, plain and simple.

They just dress it up as 'democratic capitalism' (whatever that is supposed to be) and sell it to the sheeple via criminal charlatans who masquerade as their 'elected' representatives. And the media, of course.
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Re: uk governments "arbiet macht frei" program

Postby bodge » Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:49 pm

We estimated a version of Okun’s law for the UK in July 2011. We developed an integral version of Okun’s law and applied the LSQ method to estimate coefficient in :
u(t) = u(t0) + bln[G/G0] + a(t-t0) (1)
where u(t) is the predicted rate of unemployment at time t, G is the level of real GDP per capita, a and b are empirical (LSQ) coefficients. The best-fit (Okun’s) model minimizing the RMS error of the cumulative model (1) is as follows:
du = -0.39dlnG + 0.63 (2)
The most recent estimate on the unemployment rate in the UK is 8.4% for the fourth quarter of 2011 as reported by the NSO for the economically active population between 16 and 64 years of age. The Conference Board has also published an estimate of real GDP per capita for 2011. Figure 1 depicts the observed and predicted curves of the unemployment rate, including the rates for 2011. The overall agreement is very good but the current rate of unemployment is lower than the predicted one by 0.6%. Figure 1 suggests that the rate of unemployment has been driven by real economic growth and one can expect the rate to grow to the level of 9.0%. The will be no decease in the rate of unemployment if the growth rate of real GDP per growth does not exceed (0.63/0.39=) 1.63% per year. In 2011, this rate was only 0.09%.
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Re: uk governments "arbiet macht frei" program

Postby EnlightenedScot » Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:50 am

Worse is to come from next year when the single universal credit is implemented.

From then if you earn less than the equivalent of minimum wage at 35 hours per week, you will be treated as a jobseeker if you want to claim housing benefit which is to be integrated into the single credit.

So if you work 20 hours a week in ASDA and claim HB to help with rent at present, you will have to demonstrate what you are doing to find another 15 hours work. If you don't comply then no assistance with rent, eviction will follow once arrears pile up and you'll have to find a railway arch to sleep under.

If you are self employed and currently claim tax credits, from April 2013 you are going to be assumed to be earningf at least minimum wage for the number of hours you declare.

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Postby bodge » Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:50 am

The english never learn brother ;)
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Re: uk governments "arbiet macht frei" program

Postby simlmx » Sun Feb 26, 2012 9:45 pm

Yeah britain is a collectivist hellhole. skweeker i agree with you that this government is completely fascist, within our two party dictatorship we have the two extremes, which are basically the same fascism/socialism are both collectivist dictatorships.
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