HOW THE GOVERNMENT STEAL CHILDREN FROM LOVING FAMILIES

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childrenslegal

This is happening to thousands of children and families every day, and until the general populace wake up and do something about it, it will continue.
We have to keep on doing what we can to expose this trade in human suffering, unfortunately most dont beleive it can happen to them

David Icke -- International Law
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4I-OodHLEM

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childrenslegal

This is happening to thousands of children and families every day, and until the general populace wake up and do something about it, it will continue.
We have to keep on doing what we can to expose this trade in human suffering, unfortunately most dont beleive it can happen to them

Funny that. My office has 3 people and one case. We keep asking people to bring their cases to us and work with us, but no one collaborates.

I guess even the people embroiled in their own drama can't really find a way within themselves to break out.

Sad really. I think we're about to set some precedents, given recent indicators, but without sufficient data from other victims, we might well put them BELOW a new threshold - and then, more people will become victims.

What we can't see here, we can't work with or for. Maybe it's true, every man or woman her themelves and the rest can suffer ... in gagged silence.

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Graham Flatman psychologist, often referred to as Dr Flatman even
though he isn't a doctor. Works from a PO Box in Faversham.

PHD?

I would also like to ask if it is lawful for these kinds of
specialists to use pure conjecture in their reports and if the
courts are in agreements with such conjecture being used instead of
hard facts?

Of course it is. Psychlogy and Psychiatry are subjective and speculative. The only basis where either are factual is in therapy for something that HAPPENED in guidance of the patient. Beyond that you are aware that the fundamental of psyciatry where drugs are administered is to test a drug for a period of time and see if the persons 'mood' changes, if not, then yu can eliminate that disorder or condition and try another drug. What? You didn't know that?

Is it lawful for them to put before the court out of date
information or their interpretation of out of date material, which
has not been proven as fact in a court of law?

Anything can be put before a court legally. The question of whether it's fraud or perjury is another issue.

If the data basn't been proven in a court, then that is what and why they are putting it before the court. It creates Truthiness if you have a weaker opponent, hence how 'emotional abuse' has snuck into the process as a primary abuse.

Emotional abuse is and only ever can be, a secondary indicator of a primary abuse. Emotional conditions are a symptom of something else. But in our society today we treat the symptoms and not the cause.

Are they allowed to slander someone's name in court with untruths
and conjecture and if so, is the injured party allowed to raise
this in court and ask for redress in such a case?

You can't ask the court for redress in the hearing itself. You have to obtain a transcript, and file a claim against the person.

But first up Barristers are immune to prosecution if they did not have a reason to beleive the information they were submitting is wrong. This is why barristers are separated and do accept information from opponents. they can't HEAR what yu have to say, because then they have aduty of care to investigate if their client is being honest. Once in the court room, they can hear whatever you want to tell them because it's before the judge and ... the judge will decide.

To be honest, I don't think your FOI request is in fact an FOI request.

You asked questions relating to individuals and their conduct, that's not FOI.

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truth of injustice in the family courts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufjT5FnP ... r_embedded

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childrenslegal

This is happening to thousands of children and families every day, and until the general populace wake up and do something about it, it will continue.
We have to keep on doing what we can to expose this trade in human suffering, unfortunately most dont beleive it can happen to them

Funny that. My office has 3 people and one case. We keep asking people to bring their cases to us and work with us, but no one collaborates.

I guess even the people embroiled in their own drama can't really find a way within themselves to break out.

Sad really. I think we're about to set some precedents, given recent indicators, but without sufficient data from other victims, we might well put them BELOW a new threshold - and then, more people will become victims.

What we can't see here, we can't work with or for. Maybe it's true, every man or woman her themelves and the rest can suffer ... in gagged silence.

Can you post your office details as families may not have heard of you

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I think I'd rather just have people with genuine inquiries use intelligence to make contact.

We're don't have the human resources to have every divorce case calling in!

We prefer to work with nuclear families - that is:

No divorces, no separations, no step kids, no kids to multiple partners.

Preferably with no Drug, Alcohol, DV, Gambling, Criminal Convictions (unless they are as a result of Care Proceedings and not genuine or provked)

Of course if there are people outside that criteria who can actually do something proactive like help in the office, run errands, take on a long term project, then we're all ears and we have some long term projects to deploy, just no people.

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Just saw this:


Starting in time for Christmas is the UK's first Live TV Talk show on the internet totally devoted to Social Services. If you have a story you'd like to tell, you can email a brief outline to uksocialservices@yahoo.co.uk. The show's will be hosted by Alle & Zanne Segretti Starting 23 December 2010 at 8:30 PM. http:/.../www.ustream.tv/channel/uksocialservices

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Philip Thompson, corrupt social services and forced adoption Unity FM pt1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5A1oXCQMYg

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Just saw this:


Starting in time for Christmas is the UK's first Live TV Talk show on the internet totally devoted to Social Services. If you have a story you'd like to tell, you can email a brief outline to uksocialservices@yahoo.co.uk. The show's will be hosted by Alle & Zanne Segretti Starting 23 December 2010 at 8:30 PM. http:/.../www.ustream.tv/channel/uksocialservices

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Couple who fled UK after social workers took their child are declared fit parents by Spanish officials and reunited with baby No2

A baby boy who was snatched from his parents on the authority of social workers has been returned after tests showed the couple are perfectly capable of caring for him.

Ten-month-old Daniel was back home with his parents last night after spending most of his young life in an orphanage.
The smiling boy was cuddled by his father and mother, Jim and Carissa, whose names we have changed for legal reasons.
The couple had fled to Spain, where Daniel was born in February, after their other child, Poppy, now two, was seized by Suffolk social services and put up for adoption. They had deemed the couple ‘unfit’ parents who might emotionally harm their daughter in the future.
This decision was roundly criticised in the Commons by local MP Tim Yeo as ‘tantamount to child kidnap’.
Daniel was still being breast-fed by Carissa in hospital when Spanish social workers, acting on a tip-off from Suffolk, took him and placed him in an orphanage in Valencia.

Now, in a snub to their UK counterparts, Spanish social workers say Jim and Carissa are no danger to Daniel.
Jim, a 42-year-old legal adviser, and Carissa, 32, plan to sue Suffolk social services for breaking up their family. They are also taking their case to the European Court of Human Rights claiming their family life has been destroyed, as they prepare to fight a High Court legal battle to get Poppy back next month.
Last night Jim said at their home in Spain: ‘The Spanish social services say we meet all their criteria for being good parents and we’re delighted.
The authorities here did extensive psychological tests on both of us and found we are normal, and capable of caring for our children. We passed the six tests with flying colours.

‘We hope this will lead to our family being reunited with Poppy at last, and the four of us being left to get on with our lives together.’
His parents had moved to Spain when Carissa became pregnant with Daniel and received warnings from Suffolk Council that he might be taken away when he was born.

Their daughter had been torn from Carissa’s arms at 12 weeks old in October 2008 when social workers and police arrived at the couple’s home in East Anglia.
They were acting on unproven allegations about Carissa from her ex-husband after a difficult divorce.
They refused to believe evidence to the contrary provided by the couple. But the brutality of the snatch led to the intervention by Mr Yeo. He said: ‘Suffolk Council actively seeks opportunities to remove babies from their mothers.’

Meanwhile, Poppy is living with foster parents who hope to adopt her.
Suffolk social workers are not allowed to rubber stamp the adoption while Jim and Carissa fight the plan in the High Court.
The crucial test results on Jim and Carissa have been examined by the Daily Mail. We have changed their names and Daniel’s because, under British laws, the identity of the family cannot be publicised while Poppy is up for adoption.
The return of Daniel is a breakthrough for scores of families who have fled overseas to escape the clutches of British social workers.
In a separate move, Jim and Carissa, along with 35 families, have launched unprecedented legal action against UK family courts which have taken 50 of their children for forced adoption. All were deemed at risk of ‘future emotional harm’ from their parents, a condition unproven in science and often used as the premise to remove children from families by social workers.

Jim said: ‘To find our son had gone as she lay in the hospital was cruelty beyond belief.
‘She could not bear to face the heartbreak again of having yet another child snatched from her. So she decided to be sterilised there and then.’
They saw Daniel on nine occasions after he was taken to the Spanish orphanage 10 months ago. ‘He recognised us every visit and since he arrived home he has never stopped smiling at us,’ added Jim.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... y-No2.html