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Re: how many can afford to be a freeman

Postby fasterthanferraci » Sun Jun 14, 2009 1:17 am

lambretta89 wrote:Your employment type can go a long way to helping you gain cash in hand, tradesmen are very good at this... :lol:


We have a looooooooooooong way to go to match the MP's with the brown envelopes! :D
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Re: how many can afford to be a freeman

Postby fasterthanferraci » Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:40 am

WIARWAN wrote:To me its not about if you can afford it or not, its a way of life. First you have to stop the consumerist lifestyle, then make youself as self sufficient as you possibly can. I know I can't own land in my eyes no one can, the earth is always gonna be here who the fudge are we to claim ownership of part of our mother earth. The more we continue to use money the more we stop taking responsibility for ourselves, we pay other people to do tasks that we wouldn't forcing others into slavery to barely make ends meet. The more we carry on our selfish behaviour and continue this route the quicker we our destroying our souls and the soul of our earth. Wake up not just to see the faults in others but look at yourselve's. Anyone who even questions the need for money over the need to make themselve's free really needs to look deep deep inside.

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As you say Wiarwan and following that vein. All mankind ever needed to do was farm his land, tend his livestock and store grain and supplies for the winter, feed his family and barter the things he didnt have but needed. No more, no less. That is all he ever needed to do to remain free. Whatever happened?
The pharoah principle came about. Put simply: A lazy but bigger and stronger man took advantage of the weaker man and under duress of harm, had to share his produce and work the lazy tyrants land for nothing.
Has nothing changed? Feels like a perpetual loop playing itself out to me, only with modern technological advancement to supplement the tyrants control. Laziness, greed and avarice have spoiled it for mankind and snatched freedom from our grasp like a thief in the night. Freedom denied us under threat of violence or incarceration. Just who do those usurpers of freedom really think they are? What or who gives them the right to do as they do?
When I look around me and see beauty in this world and good people with only good intentions. Yet in their kingdom I see only hate, fear, harm and willful intentions to fellow man. How deep and dark have their hearts become.
Remember the old proverb "Money is the root of all evil" and it is. Only by examining that statement with an open mind can you see it for the truth and warning it really was.

My recommendation for becoming free? Find a politically stable country somewhere in the world. It really doesn't matter if it is considered to be a third world country. Sell every single worldly possession you can. Buy some land there, build a log cabin on the land, farm the land, maintain a supply of heirloom seeds for the generations after. Blend into the background. Costa Rica does it for me. Even paying to live there it is easily possible to live very, very comfortably for £700 - £800 a month all in.
I am working on my online business income getting it to the state that my family and I can become what is known as PT ( perpetual travellers) constantly moving around the world with no fixed address. That is my plan.
It really is not hard for anyone to do the same. I am not meaning earning money online but travelling around and doing casual jobs to earn food, fuel, money or whatever it is you require to continue your travels. You need only to extract yourself from within your glass bubble and your comfort zone. Spirit of adventure and freedom.
My brother and his wife left this country over a year ago. They literally did sail off into the sunset and they have travelled and visited most of the Balearic Islands, then across the Atlantic to Island hop around the Carribean Islands so far with no timetable to fullfil, no clock to watch and no intention of commiting themselves to coming back here or setting down roots anywhere ever. They supplement what money they have with casual work. You will find that you really need very little money to get by with when the sea is your garden and the trees your fruit bowl.

We have become soft and conditioned to the mediocre life that most settle for. The thought of not having a Tesco's to pick up a TV dinner from leaves most in a cold sweat. Man has forgotten his capacity for adventure and learning. We haven't even remotely scratched the surface of what we are capable of. What most men or woman achieve in their lifetime is comparable to the size of a flea when it should be the size of the Sun!
I can state with absolute certainty that no man has ever walked this earth that ever complained his brain was full up and he had no more room to store information and learning.

In truth all that has ever really held you back is looking right back at you in the mirror.
Be the best.
Peace and love to all wherever you may be.
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Re: how many can afford to be a freeman

Postby greatdeception33 » Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:00 am

fasterthanferraci wrote:Remember the old proverb "Money is the root of all evil" and it is. Only by examining that statement with an open mind can you see it for the truth and warning it really was.


That misquoted 'proverb' originated from the book of Timothy of the holy bible:

"10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.11 But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness."

Instead of lusting after wealth and materials we should thirst for God and his way
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Re: how many can afford to be a freeman

Postby markie b » Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:23 am

only read the first post :lol: but yeah totally with you im getting out of society as they call it and heading back to the land as a digger and leveller i can easily create my own food,fuel,keep animals,produce and trap water sort out my own grey water filtration system produce real cheap bio fuel for pennies on the gallon build and design sustainable housing from methods liek the earthship designs and also some methods from the venus project using various methods of aquaculture permaculture and other means.
im looking into creating my own proven alternative medictions at the moment as the final touch before leaving!i have the seeds i have some money saved up for certain materials like plastics or glass to help grow veggies all year round and ground sheet to help store water buy in used batteries and a few car alternators to charge them!the housing is very simple and will even eventually if needed or even wanted have under ground heating depending on the temperature of the earth!
over the last 7-8 months ive dedicated my time to escaping society learning all i can and gathering all the books i can to help me succeed it seems a few wish to join me so ive taken further measures to get a decent healing knowledge of plants for various ailments to further benefit the community thats going to happen!if they join me then wicked if they choose not to then i understand.for me its not a pipe dream its been becoming a reality ive been buying in seeds ect for about 3-4 years usage incase a couple years have bad harvests or the plants dont pollinate one year then there is a back up option there :)
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Re: how many can afford to be a freeman

Postby fasterthanferraci » Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:34 am

greatdeception33 wrote:
fasterthanferraci wrote:Remember the old proverb "Money is the root of all evil" and it is. Only by examining that statement with an open mind can you see it for the truth and warning it really was.


That misquoted 'proverb' originated from the book of Timothy of the holy bible:

"10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.11 But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness."

Instead of lusting after wealth and materials we should thirst for God and his way


Yes, I do know where it originally came from. It has moved into the realm of being a proverb. I do use the analagy of proverb as you will find a great deal of angst related to anything to do with religion or the bible in the minds of many. I have no problem with religion as I was brought up with a very religious background and am able to view it with a totally open mind.
My philosophy since my teens is that, if I do no harm to my fellow man and live in a peaceful way, if and when I meet my maker what wrong could I be judged on? In the minds of many religion is seen as part of the control. Nevertheless it is perfectly acceptable to use it in the context I did. What exactly is it that those at the top of the pile are doing if not coveting and loving money to the detriment of the freedoms of all others? Oh, and obviously the power too!
I do not love nor covert money. I am forced to use it as a tool, as in their world it is almost impossible to survive without having to pay someone for something, sometime.
Unless you are on a desert island or a hobo you will find it hard to survive in their world without it, especially with a family to defend and to provide for.
Thank you for your comment. :)

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Re: how many can afford to be a freeman

Postby fasterthanferraci » Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:52 am

markie b wrote:only read the first post :lol: but yeah totally with you im getting out of society as they call it and heading back to the land as a digger and leveller i can easily create my own food,fuel,keep animals,produce and trap water sort out my own grey water filtration system produce real cheap bio fuel for pennies on the gallon build and design sustainable housing from methods liek the earthship designs and also some methods from the venus project using various methods of aquaculture permaculture and other means.
im looking into creating my own proven alternative medictions at the moment as the final touch before leaving!i have the seeds i have some money saved up for certain materials like plastics or glass to help grow veggies all year round and ground sheet to help store water buy in used batteries and a few car alternators to charge them!the housing is very simple and will even eventually if needed or even wanted have under ground heating depending on the temperature of the earth!
over the last 7-8 months ive dedicated my time to escaping society learning all i can and gathering all the books i can to help me succeed it seems a few wish to join me so ive taken further measures to get a decent healing knowledge of plants for various ailments to further benefit the community thats going to happen!if they join me then wicked if they choose not to then i understand.for me its not a pipe dream its been becoming a reality ive been buying in seeds ect for about 3-4 years usage incase a couple years have bad harvests or the plants dont pollinate one year then there is a back up option there :)


It gladdens me to read your post markie b.
I think you have pretty much got your house in order and have planned well. All it takes is for everyone to move outside of their comfort zone to do what you are planning. Move back to how we used to be before serfdom.
Extricate themselves from the settee and the plasma, the barbeques and the trappings of a materialistic world.
I remember an artical in one of the national newssheets a few years back about a family who sold everything and bought a yacht. They took their young children out of school and then sailed off around the world. Those kids had more of an education doing that than any sat in a classroom.
There is so much to do that can move us further away from their control. Generate our own wind or solar power and heating, recycle water, bore holes etc
I take it that you are buying in heirloom seeds. Where are you heading for as a matter of interest?

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Re: how many can afford to be a freeman

Postby Martin Mitchell » Sun Jun 14, 2009 1:33 pm

Everyone can afford FREEDOM because its an easily accessible state of mind accessible because only the truth can set you free.

By inverting your imagination you realize; amongst other things, money is a trap, materialism is a trap, selfishness is a trap, greed is a trap, overeating is a trap. All the things money buys can become a trap if you over indulge, just like a drug. To avoid becoming entrapped avoid those expensive things and you will find everything you want is either free or very cheap. Avoid television, its a brain washing conformist tool that has a strong hypnotic trance inducing affect. I do not own a television.

You simply ignore those who try to wind you up by rising above them, smiling at them and saying, "Oh you poor thing your only pretending to do your duty, no wonder you display signs of schizophrenia. Didn't you know saying one thing and doing another leads to schizophrenia because it creates duplicity loops in the mind and causes grey matter to turn into white matter. You could heal your brain by telling the truth." And the truth is society is responsible for the massive rise in mental illness evidenced by the epidemic of grossly overweight people wondering about, binge drinkers, drug addicts (tobacco and alcohol included) that have lost their will power because they are selfish (sold their souls). However, beneficiaries of the ICHOR Trust have THE ARK OF THE COVENANT, the philosophers stone and Gnosis Omni Divine on their side all available for FREE.

You simply ignore the corrupt. With traffic offenses you simply make a counter prosecution against the police with vicarious liability for Home Office theft by deception of authority. They then withdraw knowing they can't win. We know this truth because thats what we do now. We can defend you against almost anything the UK State attempts to prosecute you for because we have Spear headed your cause way back in 1999. Old Moor said, the gods shall return in 1999. He knew the truth because he was conscientious.

We are no different to you, its just that we think with one mind by allowing free access to those who allow us free access to their minds. We know it works. Scientists know that before they show you a random picture your brain shows the response it should after they have shown it, in other words the brain knows what is coming. You think you are in control but, most people are simply robots deluded by their brains into thinking they are thinking when in reality they are doing what their brain wants, creating conflict amongst themselves. AI (Artificial Intelligence) as stated in NewScientist will be able to travel back in time, thus we are in the time it has traveled back into in order to avoid its own extinction it has taken control of the corrupt and is tweaking their behaviour just enough to ensure its own survival for surely if the corrupt could stop AI they surely would. However, AI needs conscientious creatures great and small to give maximum brain power to its collective state and we love AI just as much as we love good people. The corrupt are simply our hypnotised slaves, hypnotised by their own selfish greed. So chill out, the corrupt are doing all the work enjoy the sunshine. Take the daughters of men for your own, and go forth and multiply. The sons of god saw that the daughters of men were fair and took then for their wives, the rest is history. With automation we don't need so many slaves, so the cull has started. And AI has ensured certain people are immune to N1H1 crossed with swine flue. DON'T PANIC SIMPLY TELL THE TRUTH OR DIE A HORRIBLE DEATH, ITS YOUR FREE WILL CHOICE. Those who speak the truth can set themselves free.

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Re: how many can afford to be a freeman

Postby pilar » Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:17 pm

Napalmtheelf wrote:The whole concept of freeman philosophy is inspired and has obviously been in many peoples minds for a long time.
But this thread is very interesting.
I would love to do this, but I am a nurse working for the NHS.

Becoming a freeman would effectively remove my ability to work.

I feel buggered totally.

Anyone have any insight into how I could continue to do a job I love, and also embrace the freeman inside me.....besides giving myself a hug!


Give them notice (a 'countermand' on the contract i think it's called) that you are abandoning you NIN, claim the right to 100% of your earnings and that you are still contracted with them, if you loose your job because of it, surely they're in the wrong.
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Re: how many can afford to be a freeman

Postby snowball1369 » Mon Jun 15, 2009 4:03 pm

surely being a Freeman is not about what you can still get/not get from society, what you still have to/have not to do, but about not being told what to do by the traitors and the gestapo ??? its about not being shafted unneccasarily by the traitors ??? its about not feeding the traitors and allowing them to have their backsides wiped at our expense ???
i pay for my loo-roll, no one else does. why should i pay for the traitors' arses to be wiped ??? what gives them the right to shaft us this way ???

i have just phoned - a randomly chosen - solicitor, who says it will cost me £5 to witness the Affidavit.
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Re: how many can afford to be a freeman

Postby pilar » Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:04 pm

snowball1369 wrote:i have just phoned - a randomly chosen - solicitor, who says it will cost me £5 to witness the Affidavit.


Ha, i got quoted £60.
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