Understanding PRESENTMENTS-Council letters/demands/PCNs/etc

[judgedredd]

Definition for the edited document above.

Sui Juris: -

Competent to make informed decisions, under no legal disability.

Note: It takes a boat load of information (supplied by the prosecution) for me to 'stop' asking questions about whatever subject they may wish to engage me.
(USA) 14th Amendment citizens are under a legal dis-ability. Those individuals must have an attorney represent them, or they must 'appear' (magically) Pro-Se. Pro-Se means all of the 'rules and procedures' will be adhered to as THE COURT DECIDES. Fools appear Pro-Se. (You can see that this also applies to the UK as the same words are used).

This definition is extracted from a very informative pdf that can be found here on page 14:

http://matrixfiles.com/JerryKirk/chapte ... status.pdf

which is a pdf within a course that is here:

http://matrixfiles.com/JerryKirk/

This particular pdf will also be of tremendous interest to those who want to 'extract themselves' out of the 'system'. Makes it very easy to understand how to do this.

Going back to the name issue.

Calling yourself Warren of the Family Ffolkes is playing into their hands.

Having read a lot of historical documents the term 'of the family' was used a lot by the craftsmen that used to work for the Earls, Lords, Dukes, etc. For example Robert of the family Smith was the local blacksmith. If you read the Law of Nations (which can be found here: http://www.matrixfiles.com/lon.html ) you will find that Sovereings are referred to as the House of Bismarck, the House of Stewart, the House of Hanover, etc. So if anything you should be calling yourself Warren of the House of Ffolkes. But then all you have to do is to look at the signatures of any of the known kings and queens and you will find them signing their name in a normal fashion i.e Elizabeth Regina. So I sign my name as I have always done, with the name also written underneath with the comma and Sui Juris added on. I don't sign those last words though, just like you don't sign Mr. and then your name.

I have a document from the DVLA that has my name on it plus the term Sui Juris after my last name. I was using the info from week 12 of Jerry's course. Didn't go the full hog (as it was still in the ALL CAPS name) and get the car out of the system (which was the next step that I could have done to do so), as I didn't want to be left with a car I couldn't resell.

Will look at the other doc you posted.

[mrcrisp]

It's true, using a family name or calling yourself `of the xxx family` is simply confirming your status as a slave.

A quick seach shows under the Latin dictionary the following:

familia : family, household.
familiaris : belonging to a household / friendly, intimate.
famulatus : servitude, slavery, service.
famulus : servant.

`Name` also means slave, as does person. You are Executor/Beneficiary to your <legal fiction> Estate, nothing less.

Also concerning fee schedule. When you correctly bill after subsiquent dishonour, when done correctly the bill becomes endorsed and then you can liquidate it (after getting the indemnity bond attached).
These agents do not need to `pay`. If they dishonour a devine document by which their own empire was created, they had better pay for their sin.

[judgedredd]

I have looked at the second document and edited it slightly and also made a slight change to the first one. Much better verbiage.

Mind you from others experiences it seems to be better to just send it back 'NO CONTRACT RETURN TO SENDER' (NCRTS) without any letters at all. I did exactly the letter that you did (conditional acceptance) and it is still going nearly one year later. This is because we engaged them by writing this letter.

(EDITED: this as shown in cheeky cherub post below) Also the 'deadbeat dads' video where someone (Maurice and Sherry) talks about getting around 8 speeding tickets is very illuminating. He sent them back 'NO CONTRACT RETURN TO SENDER' (NCRTS) on about 3-4 of them and answered the rest with the conditional acceptance (proof of claim) letter exactly as you have it. The ones where he did NCRTS he never heard from again. The ones where he did a conditional acceptance he had to go to court on. So it seems that this conditional acceptance letter is a con by whoever created it.

A friend of mine and myself actually got talking to a traffic warden and in her words 'All this is, is a piece of paper. People can choose to pay it or not.'

From my new perspective I would NEVER send the conditional acceptance letter. I would ignore it or do NCRTS.

[judgedredd]

The individual who created and drafted the conditional acceptance letter is who I am reffering to. I don't know who that is. This letter has been used by many on this forum including myself and it never provided the remedy that one was looking for (not hearing from the issuing 'authority' again).

[judgedredd]

The link to the audio where this is said is here:

http://lawfulrebellion.org/2010/01/15/d ... vits-work/

The point in the audio is at 1hr 4 mins 50 secs

[wffolkes]

This is fantastic Thank you.

I'll put this with the first letter and send it out tomorrow, explanations would be good just so I understand fully what it is I am sending out and the best way to reply again when they eventually reply.

It seems they always ignore what you say and continue with their own process despite the legalities invovled.

(updated)
Sorry I posted before I read page 3 of the post. Yea from now on its No contract return to sender. Do you just write that on the envelope and pop it back in the post?

[judgedredd]

Hi Warren,

What I do is get an address label and stick it over the window of the envelope (if there is one) and then write the words

NO CONTRACT
RETURN TO SENDER

on the label.

If there is no window then I cross out my address with a black sharpie so that it can't be read and put the NCRTS verbiage somewhere on the front of the envelope. Preferably in Red.

Just make sure the envelope has a return address on the back flap of the envelope. If not they can track it by the pre-paid postage number where the stamp normally is.

The thing is, one really needs to get the ticket (or other presentment or legal document) sent back within three working days. So if you do the NCRTS route you'll have to wait and see what happens.

Just to be clear ..... I would not sent the conditional acceptance letter. I would do NO CONTRACT RETURN TO SENDER. Although in your case that may be a bit late.

If you listen to the deadbeat dads audio, the link of which is posted above, and go to the point specified you will hear some really good stuff about ignoring/sending back the ticket. Then you can make more of an informed decision on what to do.

If you want any more clarification just post here and I will answer to the best of my ability to help you along.

[wffolkes]

Ill have alisten tonight, your help has been appreciated.

i just keen to find out what things work against this money manking goverment. We are about to enter a time of change anyway but still fighting back where and when you can is worthwhile.

[judgedredd]

This is a response to mrcrisp who posted the info about the word 'family'.

This info is very much appreciated.

I do find it interesting that Latin stopped being taught in schools in the late '70s early '80's.

And Latin is the language that the Church has used to befuddle us.

I wonder what the elite say in reference to their 'family'? Brood? It would be interstesting to find out.

[judgedredd]

Warren,

I have looked over all the posts that you and I have exchanged. Your situation is not looking good.

Reason being that you did a conditional acceptance already, according to my understanding of what has been discussed, which means that you are in for a lot of letter writing and sending back things, etc.

Because of this you will probably end up with a bailiff letter/visit.

So this is what I have done with the bailiffs (as they have now got involved).

When the letter was put thorugh the letter box (a redacted copy of which is attached) I put together a pretty self-explanatory Notice to them (which is also attached to this post) which I will paste below, plus I printed the red words over their letter and sent everything back in their envelope NCRTS, saving me the cost of a stamp!

Here is the letter from the bailiff to us:


Here is the response to them: