Understanding PRESENTMENTS-Council letters/demands/PCNs/etc

[judgedredd]

Attached below is the document used to print the RED verbiage over the front and back over any presentment that you get from these agencies which you then send back to them.

Just put their letter into your printer's paper tray with this document up on your screen, go to the print menu and print it onto their letter.

[judgedredd]

Here is the fee schedule referred to.

[judgedredd]

Subsequently the bailiffs sent a couple of letters. One to say that they received our letter and the other that basically said that they will continue with the collection of the debt as they have not been told to do anything otherwise (although interestingly this letter had a line above the address that said Without Prejudice).

So they received an invoice for over £400,000. Now I can go and squat in their private residence if I put my mind to it and I have a contract that says I can!! After all, the furniture and other movable objects are not worth much are they?

Now its a question of finding the CEO's house .....

[mrcrisp]

Nice work JD.

Remember, these `agents` work on presumptions; The are presuming a number of things, the first is that you are a Trustee to your legal-fiction Estate.

Trustees have to register for things, get licences, pay debts etc etc.
They assume you are a Trustee unless you notifiy them in every communication that you are in fact `The Occupier of the office of General Executor of the <legal fiction> Estate`. This covers the three main claims to your mind, body and soul by the parasitical Roman Cult (western law).

If you do not correct their `presumptions`, they stand as fact in their system.

[judgedredd]

Thanks to all the recent posts from everyone.

It has been refreshing to post these last few days as I have not been attacked over what has been written and there have been no shills appearing. So the moderators have been doing a good job.

And mrcrisp .... your info is referring to the stuff put out by David Clarence? I have looked at that info too. Pretty interesting. Thanks for your input.

[judgedredd]

AND here is a template for the Bill of Costs with an XLS attachment given at the end.



Notice the words in red after the area where you put your item description. If it is hard to read it says:

If you have a dispute with this bill please respond within 30 days stating the reasons. Otherwise you argree to pay the amount shown.

And guess what? They ignored this and four statements with this line in it. Therefore they have agreed to pay. Now all I have to do is to bring a case against these 'turds and collect or do a variation on the bailiff letter (as I don't need 'permission' from the courts to do this).

[mrcrisp]

And mrcrisp .... your info is referring to the stuff put put by David Clarence? I have looked at that info too. Pretty interesting. Thanks for your input.

I have not heard of David Clarence, but I shall look him up.

Another thing I would like to mention as honour and dishonour is very important is that to never deface a western Roman Document, writ, warrant, summons etc. I'm unsure if this would extend to bills, debt collectors etc.

Defacing a document is dishonourable. I don't think putting `private` instructions onto a `public` document will have any affect other than to dishonour the document. Which is why to bring public matters into the `private` one must annex a deed poll with instructions relating to the matter; Eg excercising claim of right or asking for a warrant/debt/judgement to be discharged in accordance with Executor instructions and the Law.

I have a lot to research to do still and difficulty trying to put into words what conclusions I can draw from it all.

[judgedredd]

Hi mrcrisp,

Interesting point you make about not defacing a public document.

One continues learning in this arena as new information is always being uncovered. That is why I have changed my mind on a few things in the last 18 months or so.

I will try and post something about the executor stuff as I have come across this a while ago yet have come across someone who has a different viewpoint on it. That will probably come under a new thread.

[wffolkes]

HI Judge

It seems your case has progressed to the level of baliffs, TFl ignored my initial letter and sent another reminding me of payment so I have sent the letter you helped me compose with a bill attached and have not hear anything yet, however im expecting a baliff letter so I will use your counter letters to follow up if needs be.



In regards to baliffs I have a little story for you, I missed some payments on my last council tax bill last year, the council got a court order etc and we had many baliff letters. I called the given number which routed me to the baliffs mobile. He was rude and a complete baffoon so I persisted to write them letters explaining that im making payments to the council through the online system.

Anyways they continued to send there automated letters that they will arrive to remove our goods in big red letters etc but no one has ever come to the door EVER. We continued to pay the council and have had no problems (we are up to date this year not through my choice but my partner who no matter how much I explain the legalities just wants it paid, I dont pay tv licence though but shhh she dont know that), the baliff letters continue to come but they have been less frequent. My partner still freaks out and even argues with me how calm I am.

Anyways look forward to hearing any updates

[judgedredd]

Hi wffolkes and everyone else,

Guess what the first bailiff company did? After I sent them an incoive for £410,000 I never heard from them again. Now its Marston's that have taken over collections. Same crap from them although the letter demanding payment seemed more 'real'. Interestingly the amount went down to about $150 or so but there was no certification number, no signature, no case number, no seal, no court signature, nothing!! It was just a piece of paper that anyone could have printed up. So out went another package of info like the first bailiff. All they did was send an acknowledgement letter saying they received it. Ha!!

Now, all I have to do is wait for the buggers to turn up. I think someone did a couple of weeks ago but the door wasn't answered.

What I think is that I have won this as there is nothing they can do.

So all you men and women out there who think that you can't win, well YOU CAN!!!!

Now I have to figure out how to collect £500,000 + in invoice value.

By the way, anyone wonder why the first bailiff company 'bailed' (haha)? Maybe its because they knew that my contract was valid? (The one saying I will take their property if they try anything).

Stop being afraid of these twits, people. Take charge of your money and your lives. Will keep everyone informed on what hapens next.