waterwise wrote:There are two aspects that stand out above all others within this particular subject that I would like to highlight. The first relates to the relationship between people and the land and the second relates to the existing commercial construct and the ways in which it uses people as nothing more or less than a resource.
The land, this earth is the substance from which we comprise, it is the same that we are destined to return to when we meet our ends. Without access to land, we become helpless and entirely dependent on the controlling powers and thus become slaves of varying status.
Our removal from the land has been imposed at various stages of our history spanning back to the time when the first peoples came here at the beginning of this epoch. Empirical powers have always subjugated the slaves and annihilated all knowledge or gnosis as to the means by which they would otherwise thrive independently of captivity.
The penal system that comprises of statutes and judgements that are in turn enforced by other slaves of higher status thus ignores the true law and creates its own, bribing and seducing its advocates and puppets to do its dirty work.
It has been by these means that the garden has been systematically destroyed, indigenous knowledge wiped away and vile treatment and abuse proliferated. Those of you that condemn slavery, should perhaps look very carefully at your onw lives, especially if they are still orientated within the commercial construct. I did a little maths earlier this year and calculated how much actual equitable substance was achieved by some one earning £20,000.00 a year based upon them paying approximately £500.00 per month on mortgage or lodgings and assumed that they owned a small car. The result after deducting all the requisite impositions of payments for bits of paper, direct and indirect taxation, levies, duties, licenses, insurances, etc., etc., was about £2,500.00. Now thats what I call slavery.
Here we have a group of people constantly vilified by the commercial construct and through their own need to survive, have carried with them a very different moral compass, but whose activities when looked at from a very slightly different perspective, can be seen as a part of the problem.
For example, they are accused of leaving waste material, of fly tipping amongst other things. But what are the substances we are taking about and where did they come from. Even more significantly what has been happening to all those white goods taken diligently to the recycling centres? If you look, you will find that they have been dumped into other countries!
These people are not your enemies, it is those that hoard the land and confine the people into the prison camps of urban developments that are. Those that constrain every act and reduce it to impositions and demands for submission rather than enabling common sense solutions.
Those of you that see these people as some how lesser, as undesirables should take a good hard look in the mirror. In these islands right now, more than a million families are homeless and this weapon is most definitely being used impose even deeper captivity and along with it, reduced vitality, disease and death.
Its time to look at them as part of your family rather than maintain allegiance to the living dead corporeal entities (corporations) for if you do not, it is your children that will be next.
traderfluff wrote:On the eve of madness great things will happen........ ignorance may burden you but your spirit shalt lift you!
the world is not for taking but for giving! peace love and happiness shall always remain in the eyes and hearts you hold true!
My thoughts are with you all ...
"Dale Farm wins legal reprieve"
Residents at the country's largest illegal traveller camp won a last-minute court injunction on Monday delaying a bid by the local authority to evict them from the sprawling site.
The High Court ruling, stopping any action before a further hearing Friday, came as bailiffs prepared to enter the Dale Farm camp outside the town of Basildon.
A party atmosphere erupted among the 200 residents and outsider activists, some of whom have chained themselves to the hastily-erected barricades blocking the entrance to the 2.4 hectare camp.
Bailiffs had earlier approached the site for the first time to urge the travellers to stop protesters from obstructing the then-imminent eviction.
"The eviction has stopped for today, I feel great. We might have a judge on our side now, it might get stopped altogether," said Nora Sheridan, a middle-aged Irish traveller who has been on Dale Farm for 10 years and was threatening to cement her feet to the ground.
At the High Court in London, judge Anthony Edwards-Stuart said there was a realistic chance that measures taken by Basildon Council to remove illegally-erected structures at the site "may go further" than the terms of the enforcement notices.
"I do not see that any serious injustice will be caused if the actual implementation of any measures will not take place before the end of this week," the judge said.
Basildon Council has fought a 10-year battle with the Irish travellers, who own the land but lack planning permission to build on it. The council had said the site clearance would begin on Monday.
The site comprises 51 unauthorised plots, on which caravans and some chalet-type houses were home to up to 400 people including many families and their children until several days ago.
But several traveller families have already abandoned the camp and many of the remaining occupants are protesters.
Kathleen, the mother of the camp's youngest resident, two-week old Vivien, who was born on Dale Farm, told AFP: "I feel over the moon now, I really am glad the eviction has been put back to Friday. Whether it's going to stay, whether it's going to be off completely we don't know.
"If it stops, we'll be delighted. Everyone can just live a normal life again and put their children back to school.
"If the eviction goes ahead, I just don't want to think about it. I've nowhere to go."
The high-profile campaign to block the eviction has attracted support from Oscar-winning actress Vanessa Redgrave and a former advisor to the United Nations.
The situation has also further highlighted the nomadic, largely ethnic Irish traveller communities in Britain, following a hugely popular television documentary series called "Big Fat Gypsy Weddings".
Council leader Tony Ball said the local authority was "extremely disappointed and frustrated by the decision" but was confident they would eventually be able to proceed with the clearance.
"The motion was put forward to the High Court without notice, which meant that the judge only had one side of the story and therefore has given the council until Friday to go back to the High Court," he said outside the site entrance.
Gypsy Council founder Grattan Puxon, 72, said that despite the reprieve, the inhabitants would remain on their guard.
"We have been evicted from many places but we don't intend to be evicted from Dale Farm without a big fight," he told AFP from behind a tyre wrapped in barbed wire at the barricade.
"We hope it's going to result in an understanding around Europe of what is happening to Romany people and travellers."
Earlier Monday, with the eviction seemingly imminent, a dozen bailiffs wearing yellow hard hats and blue jackets marked "Enforcement Officer" were greeted with a volley of abuse as they walked up to the Dale Farm camp, in tense scenes.
The protesters and Irish travellers sitting on a scaffolding blockade at the entrance shouted "here they come" and "shame on you".
Using a loud hailer, bailiff Bryan Lecoche urged protesters to leave for safety reasons.
He told them that the scaffolding blockade they had erected -- complete with wooden planks, boards, bricks, tyres and barbed wire -- had the potential to "put people's lives in danger".
Female protesters are taking turns to wear chains around their necks that will tighten if the barrier is moved.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/bailiffs-prepa ... 41776.html
M0JFK wrote:I may not agree with what you said but I will defend to the death your right to say it...so when you have ADMIN like BEN removing your comments this GUY who is supposed to be the defender of freedom of speech and rights CENSORS your free speech by removing the comment...What about my freeman rights BEN?
When a site starts censoring post it becomes PART AND PARCEL of the problem and is in no position to claim to be a defender of rights, IT BECOMES NO BETTER THAN THOSE THEY CONDEM...My Gran used to say "ITS THE KETTLE CALLING THE FIRE BLACK" or in modern day terms HYPOCRASY.
How on EARTH can TPUC be a defender of rights when it actively suppresses free speech by removing posts? HOW CAN YOU DEFEND THAT POSITION?
And for the guy who claims I am a racist you are no better than the Jews who like to scream ANTI SEMITE or NAZI when you point out their genocide and lies...yes you did the same by trying to label me a racist. AND NO I am not in a EGO battle with other members of the site before that gets thrown my way.
The truth hurts but it remains the truth...THE MAJORITY of these so called freemen of the land you defend are criminals end of story...freemen do not steal, they do not peddle drugs and firearms, they don’t make others lives a misery by their anti social activities , they don’t take slaves nor do they treat their women folk like second class shit...Gypsy Wedding anyone?
And the guy on here who tries to defend their slave trade (BECAUSE THATS WHAT IT IS) by saying the slaves liked it so much they wanted to go back....huh??????? JESUS mate do you not know anything about the STOCKHOLME SYNDROME?
Some on here (including the admin) need to stop practising their hypocrisy and allow free speech even if it does not fit in with their own personal views or you become no better than the PTB… PERIOD.
And for the guy who claims I am a racist you are no better than the Jews who like to scream ANTI SEMITE or NAZI when you point out their genocide and lies...yes you did the same by trying to label me a racist.
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