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Right,I am now officially 'Pissed Off''!!

Postby Jayen4 » Thu Nov 24, 2011 6:39 pm

I'm getting really annoyed now !!

I have been refusing to pay a 'fine',which resulted in non payment of a fixed penalty notice for not wearing my seatbelt. I have previously issued 2 affidavits to both the 'enforcement centre' and the magistrates court,using the Dean Clifford method....i.e. 'I am not my legal person,as they address their nonsense to. I've also issued 1 invoice/bill to the court for £2500.
I had a bit of an argument with one lot of magistrates at the beggining of november and they were told in no uncertain terms that would not be paying their attempted extortion. They were also told that I was the highest authority in the court,not them !
So.....yesterday lunchtime,I was just about to jump in the shower and the court baillif turns up (big fat bitch !) and says ''I'm here to get payment or arrest you''. She was acting in the typically arrogant 'official' manner,which always gets my back up !!
I tells her to read the 'removal of implied access' notices in my windows,but she refused point blank,so I told her to go away. She called the police and they turn up armed with their battering ram,to break the door down ! :shock:
So I had a bit of an argument with them,sticking one of my notices in one of the thugs (sorry,police officers) hands and told him to read it......He didn't and chucked it back inside the door way,saying that means nothing.
So,off we go to court (me all dirty and unshaven). Sits around a bit,before we get into court,with fat bitch coming over to me and saying,''I'll give you one more chance to pay.......I'll take it up with the mags,says I. Oh and she kept trying to scare me by saying that if I didn't pay there and then,that I'd be going to Armley jail ! Then I'll go to Armley jail !! And I was quite prepared to do so !! Grrr !! :evil:
When I finally got into court,I asked if they'd seen my affidavits....no says the mags... Oh why not ?? You going to read them ?? They didn't even have both of them there ! I had to lend them one of mine ! So they 'retired' to consult and they were away some time,so it must have been exercising their poor little brains.... Oh and before I forget......they started with all the usual Mr this and Mr that,so I threw my birth certificate at them......THAT is 'Mr XXXXX' I said,THAT is your legal person....I am a private man ! To give him his dues,the clerk of the court did ask me how he should address me.....and when I said you may address me as 'Jeff',from then on he did ! But the mags were STILL trying the 'Mr' shit !
So after a bit more toing and froing,I said to them...''Look,I'll make you an offer'' (Bear in mind that I'd already put a invoice/bill into the court for £2500), Given that we're now into the 3rd hour here today,that's another £15000 that you owe me.....So,you pay my charges and I'll pay yours ! He wasn't having that,but I did get a quick smile from him ! So he at least knows what the game is !
So ,I says to him....Look,it says in my affidavits that I want this matter to be heard by the Crown Court with a full jury ! Mr Clerk pipes up and says ,well,we don't have any method for doing that,with cases like this....... Well,that's a failing in your systems them,isn't it ??
So,we ended up with them getting me the address for the crown court and them expecting me to get it put up to the crown court !! Having thought about tho',surely they should be doing that ?? It's not really up to me is it ??
The upshot is that the mags says ''We'll give you 28 days to get that sorted out or pay the fine''. So I DIDN'T go to Armley ! ...1-0 to me then ? :lol: (have that fat bitch ! ). I did notice that as soon as the mags said that they'd give me 28 days,bitch baillif disappeared like a shot ! (she was sat at the back of the court).

So....It's quite likely that I'll be spending christmas in jail this year !! :( :x . I have no intention of paying their fxxxxing fine !! Oh and I' had to find my own way home,because they refused to put me back where they lifted me from ! So,I'll be adding that to their bill too,as I told them ! :evil:
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Re: Right,I am now officially 'Pissed Off''!!

Postby waterman99 » Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:22 pm

Bloody well done Jayen. A man whom sticks to his principles. I wish there were more prepared to stand up to these morons.
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Re: Right,I am now officially 'Pissed Off''!!

Postby Offthegrid » Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:23 pm

Well regardless of the end results,I have to give you credit for this one mate,if everyone did this,the battle would be won in no time.
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Re: Right,I am now officially 'Pissed Off''!!

Postby MultiMaddo85 » Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:55 pm

This sort of thing reminds me of the Friends Episode with the game of Cups - unless you've seen it you won't know what I mean but basically - try playing someone at a game they've made up and you will lose everytime

The courts run by automotons - they just go by what the books say - if there's no power they can't do anything - and many minor offences are classed as Summary Only - the Magistrates' have no power to give you a hearing at the Crown Court - or - you could say - that's how they deny you a jury trial and get away with imposing their fines on you/us - good on you for the challenge like :P

Try this - ask the court - is there any way whatsoever to challenge the jurisdiction of the court?

Answer (what they will say) - NO

Good luck anyway - ya might be best off inside over christmas anyway - you'll save a fortune of gas :)

How much do you owe them like? Surely they can't send you to jail for £90?
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Re: Right,I am now officially 'Pissed Off''!!

Postby Jackisace86 » Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:58 pm

yeah sweet work! you stood up to them and i bet theyr not used to that! surely they cant give you a prison sentence unless you have been sentenced by a court? i also wonder what limitations say with respect to this kind of thing - so i guess the official status of the matter is "adjourned"?

really hope you win the match at 1-0 pal it will be an epic victory for all of us!
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Re: Right,I am now officially 'Pissed Off''!!

Postby Tim.lee » Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:31 pm

omg make this 2.0 to the freemen. i to today was snatched by a court bailif with a warrent for my arrest. non payment of fines. £640 total... i have been in court a few times and i know the duty solicitor very well so he thought he was representing me, i told him no thanks ill do it myself. to this he was a bit worried and said i could get 21days if i never paid the fines, i still said no.

anyway they took me in and in court i put the mags on oath before i gave my oath. they then asked for my name and i said do you mean the one on my birth cetificate they said yes. i said sorry its not mine its crown copyright. they asked for dob and told them im not a vessle so dont need one. the court clerk said there is was a warrent out for MR TIMOTHY xxx LEE with dob xx/xx/xx are you this PERSON i said no im commonly known as tim and they let me go sayin there still is a warrent out for MR TIMOTHY xxx LEE i did send messages to some people on here as i had my phone on me. the solicitor i know was shocked and asked where i learn all this from so i told him, now i know there is a warrent out for the fictional PERSON ill study more but after reading this post it makes it 2.0 :lol: :lol:

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Re: Right,I am now officially 'Pissed Off''!!

Postby Jayen4 » Fri Nov 25, 2011 2:10 pm

Well,thanks for the support everyone....I do appreciate it ! :)
I'll try to answer everyone in one post......

MM... I know what you're saying... I'm well aware that the 'system' is loaded in their favour,but I don't care anymore. The blatant fraud and absolute wrongdoing is now being shoved in all our faces ! If only everyone would stand up and be counted,we would very quickly get this debacle sorted out ! As for sticking me in jail for a paltry £90.....I'm sure they won't think twice about doing just that ! I don't owe them one penny....it is they who claim that I owe them £90....and that is all they're claiming ! Well fxxxk 'em.....if they wanna do it,let 'em ! If they want to make me into a criminal,then that's precisely what I'll become....and they won't like it ! Plus....how much does it cost to keep someone in jail ??
You say ''Is there any way to challenge their juridisdiction''.... I already have !,but they choose not to acknowledge that fact. That is one of the reasons why I want it putting up to the crown court....it would set a precedent ! You see ??

Jackisace...... I don't think anything is 'adjourned' just yet.....they are still banking on me caving in....which I won't ! We'll just have to see who blinks first,won't we ??

Tim Lee..... Well done you ! That's reminded me of something that I didn't put in my original post....... Part way through the hearing,the mags actually asked me if I wanted a solicitor.....in fact he was inferring that I should have a solicitor. ''Why do I want a solicitor,I can deal with this myself !??'' Nice try,eh ?? DON'T take a solicitor.....do you realise that the first duty of a solicitor is to the court ?? That's a trap !!

I also put in my second affidavit a 'Motion to Quash' demand....but the mags didn't or wouldn't address that ! Next time I'll have to remember to say that to their faces,so that it is recorded. They have to acknowledge it then !
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Re: Right,I am now officially 'Pissed Off''!!

Postby tayga » Fri Nov 25, 2011 2:18 pm

Big respect to you Jayen. Courage and indignation in equal measure. I'm glad I'm not on their side :lol:
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Postby Jayen4 » Fri Nov 25, 2011 2:29 pm

tayga wrote:Big respect to you Jayen. Courage and indignation in equal measure. I'm glad I'm not on their side :lol:




TY ...TY ! :lol: ;)
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Re: Right,I am now officially 'Pissed Off''!!

Postby Jayen4 » Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:31 pm

Right....... This morning,I have spoken to the staff at the crown court office in Leeds.......

I explained what has been going on and what docs etc that I have issued and the lady said that any request to put this case up to the crown court MUST come from them !! She said that there is nothing stopping this matter being put in the crown court and the mags know it ! So,they were lying to me and trying to piss me about,hoping that I'd back off..... I think they're going to be surprised !
So..... There will be a letter/notice going into the mags court,this week AND an updated bill for them playing their games ! I think we're getting up towards £ 18000 overall now ! If they don't pay it,I will be looking into sticking a Lien on them !! Put my own baillifs in and seize their goods !! :lol: :evil:
They want games ??.......they can have games !!

* For the gchq monkeys that may be looking in.....I STILL ain't paying ! :evil: ...mmmkay !?? ;)
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