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[Geronimo]

FFS man cant you work a google link

01302 734225
emtas@doncaster.gov.uk

I contacted this org today. They have no record of you ringing them. They state quite strongly they would NEVER say Travellers were not ethnic minorities. As far as they are concerned they are. I asked them about their wording on their web site "ethnic minorities and travellers" They stated, quite correctly, that not all Travellers are ethnic minorities and the 'and' refers to the Travellers they work with that are not ethnic minorities. I have already explained which Travellers are considered EM.

I have also contacted the other number you provided. They are getting back to me as they scan their phone records in regards to someone ringing about Travellers and Ethnic minority status. Seems they keep records not only of the calls but what they were in connection to.

I hope you havent been lying! And only looked at their websites and saw the ubiquitous AND and decided that was enough for you! If that was the case id put that down to mischief making or even trolling and ask you be dealt with for said.

So one down one to go!

[garbal]

what law did they say said they were ethnic minorities then, or did you forget to ask ?

They state quite strongly they would NEVER say Travellers were not ethnic minorities.

They stated, quite correctly, that not all Travellers are ethnic minorities

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so they did say travelers arnt EMs then ?

[Geronimo]

what law did they say said they were ethnic minorities then, or did you forget to ask ?

They state quite strongly they would NEVER say Travellers were not ethnic minorities.

They stated, quite correctly, that not all Travellers are ethnic minorities

so they did say travelers arnt EMs then ?[/quote]

No, They stated that some travellers, the ones i posted on a pervious post, are not EM, but those i mentioned and was clearly referring to were!

Now Are you still maintaining you rang them?

[garbal]

what law did they say said they were ethnic minorities then, or did you forget to ask ?

They state quite strongly they would NEVER say Travellers were not ethnic minorities.

They stated, quite correctly, that not all Travellers are ethnic minorities

so they did say travelers arnt EMs then ?

No, They stated that some travellers, the ones i posted on a pervious post, are not EM, but those i mentioned and was clearly referring to were!

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how did they know youd quoted them in a thread

we now have two contradictory examples of what you said, they said

want to go for a third ?

what law did they say made them an EM

[Geronimo]

Are you really thick or are you just pretending to be, if so you are very convincing....It is should be clear what im saying but for your intelligence level ill try again.

They stated yes SOME Travellers are recognised as EMs and some are not.
Their website states ethnic minority (ie including the travellers who are EMs) and travellers (the travellers who are not EMs)

The ones who are not EMs I LISTED ON HERE IN A PERVIOUS POST ON THIS THREAD, I didn't tell the ORGANISATION that, i posted that for the forum. Comprehend?

So are you still maintaining you rang them YESor NO?


Legal definition of Gypsies and Travellers and context
Race Relations Case Law recognises English Romany Gypsies, and Irish Travellers as ethnic minorities. These do not include New Age Travellers. English Romany Gypsies and Irish Travellers have the same rights to race relations protection as other recognised ethnic minority groups

Ill hopefully know tomorrow what the other org you gave, as having informed you, has to say. But Doncaster state they wouldn't of said Travellers were not EM. They would of explained. Did they? They did to me without to much prompting! If you are stating you did ring them ill go back to them and complain they are giving out inaccurate information forcing them to look up your call. Can you remember what day you rang them and at what time.

[garbal]

Are you really thick or are you just pretending to be, if so you are very convincing....It is should be clear what im saying but for your intelligence level ill try again.

Legal definition of Gypsies and Travellers and context
Race Relations Case Law recognises English Romany Gypsies, and Irish Travellers as ethnic minorities. These do not include New Age Travellers. English Romany Gypsies and Irish Travellers have the same rights to race relations protection as other recognised ethnic minority groups[/b]

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so what case law is this ? im sure i asked you this before

what happens if a new age traveler is also Irish, or an Irish traveler is born in wales

we need the case law

nb their website doesn't state this at all, show me

Their website states ethnic minority (ie including the travellers who are EMs) and travellers (the travellers who are not EMs)

[Ben]

I never wanted to do this on this thread.. I feel pitty to those who have worked hard and showed a great compasion to people who need support in a desprate time of their life,

But i am fed up of the trolling on this subject.

So i have no choice but to lock this thread.. I will reveiw this in a few days and decide what should be done..

Garbel - ytou have proved yourself to be a troll or at least usingtrollish behaiver to bring a forum into conflict
for this your stay here will be reveiwed

G, i have ALOT of respect for you and i understand you passion, but all you are doing is feeding the trolls.

This is my final decision and will choose what action to take in a few days.. Any problems you have before that should be emailed to me at ben@tpuc.org

Sorry Ben

[Ben]

I have re-opend this thread and would like all members involved to keep this factual, withe evidence and not just here say

Ben

[Geronimo]

Yes and can trolls please leave their shoes at the entrance!

[Geronimo]

You really wouldn't believe this if it wasn't Basildon Council!


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