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hi John

can you just run through were we are up to with the birth certificate thing

hi bebop

i am sorry to tell you that is something i let go of about two years ago and something i won't be visiting again. i am sure there are plenty on the forum that know far more than me regarding this subject.

sorry

John x

ok thanks

what about the no caps thing, does that still stand

again sorry something else i do not do.

John x

[bebop]

what about the no caps thing, does that still stand

again sorry something else i do not do.

John x[/quote]

NCRTS ?

[x]

what about the no caps thing, does that still stand

again sorry something else i do not do.

John x

NCRTS ?[/quote]

i use no process like this anymore, i have no need too and even if i did i would not use it, better to navigate within the system than try to outside of it. this is not really something you can be told how to do it is something you just have to realise for yourself and through the process you have most evidently embarked on, i am sure - in my opinion - you will come to this.

John x

[bebop]

what about the no caps thing, does that still stand

again sorry something else i do not do.

John x

NCRTS ?

i use no process like this anymore, i have no need too and even if i did i would not use it, better to navigate within the system than try to outside of it. this is not really something you can be told how to do it is something you just have to realise for yourself and through the process you have most evidently embarked on, i am sure - in my opinion - you will come to this.

John x[/quote]

SO, is there anything in your its an illusion video, that you still stand behind ?

[x]

what about the no caps thing, does that still stand

again sorry something else i do not do.

John x

NCRTS ?

i use no process like this anymore, i have no need too and even if i did i would not use it, better to navigate within the system than try to outside of it. this is not really something you can be told how to do it is something you just have to realise for yourself and through the process you have most evidently embarked on, i am sure - in my opinion - you will come to this.

John x[/quote]
SO, is there anything in your its an illusion video, that you still stand behind ?[/quote]

to be perfectly honest bebop i would have to watch it in its entirity to answer that. my perpective has changed dramactically over the last few years and so has my understanding of everything. please appreciate i was stagnat in a belief system not of my own and it took sometime to break away from it. now it is more like an idea that has changed dramatically and has now slowed to provide a very interesting conclusion that makes complete common sense.

please remember at that time i was very new to everything and very green in the gills, maturity has set in now with a compass that finally has pointed me in the right direction and provided a measure, a rule if you like to measure from.

on this path of circular intent you will come across many sign posts some are correct and many are not. choose wisely as i am sure you will and you will find you will come back the very place you started, the only difference being the moral compass will reset your values to ones that are pure and right and of the correct intent.

John x

[Geronimo]

hi lj

quotes from a story book that has no substance and is just wordsmiths playing with language for a desired outcome and set of circumstances that would form the basis of humanities enslavement to religious myth.... enslaved simply by words.

without the desired rejection being formed by one man the secound coming could not have been formed which is the very ending of the story allowing the church (god) to always survive and to be what the very epitome of the story is. the craft was to always bring everyone back to the ways of the church with jesus being their true vicar taking over from the pope who accordingly has been looking after the world on jesus' behalf.

this is nothing more than a very well crafted story coming from nothing more than a book and from something that will only ever be a book no matter how many require it to be something different.

another way of looking at things suggests that jesus was not the word he stole the word being nothing more than a deceptive conman, in fact probably one of the best conmen ever, a role the church continued to play ever becoming his equal in the craft of deception.... only in my opinion that is.

John x
John Harris
Site Admin

I agree John, The bible is really just the longest most devious fine print of a verbal contract in history!

[ljtherock]

But John,

If the Bible is truly a fictional story book as you claim then how can it seek to keep the power with the church/god when it openly states that you are not to go to the churches or be indoctrinated into them or religions or to become priests.
For this is the exact opposite of what you state it really sets out to do?

As to taking away freewill, the Bible is not in accordance with doing so, it again clearly states that freewill is fundamental for many reasons?

Also, the prophecies as stated within the Bible, how would you explain them actually having occurred as predicted because surely with all the best plans in place not even the great wordsmiths you speak of could possibly have ensured predictions made thousand of years ago would play out in exact detail as prophesied even with the wordsmiths etc causing them to happen?

Tell me do these people behind the scenes that you speak of use any type of symbol/mark to denote themselves, for example like the freemasons and their compass symbol etc?

[x]

But John,

If the Bible is truly a fictional story book as you claim then how can it seek to keep the power with the church/god when it openly states that you are not to go to the churches or be indoctrinated into them or religions or to become priests.
For this is the exact opposite of what you state it really sets out to do?

As to taking away freewill, the Bible is not in accordance with doing so, it again clearly states that freewill is fundamental for many reasons?

Also, the prophecies as stated within the Bible, how would you explain them actually having occurred as predicted because surely with all the best plans in place not even the great wordsmiths you speak of could possibly have ensured predictions made thousand of years ago would play out in exact detail as prophesied even with the wordsmiths etc causing them to happen?

Tell me do these people behind the scenes that you speak of use any type of symbol/mark to denote themselves, for example like the freemasons and their compass symbol etc?

hi lj

without going into hours of deep discussion about this subject it is far easier to realise that i myself hold to the fact that this we are talking about is nothing more than a book to me and will never be anything more and it is obviously far more to you lj. i hold my opinions as you hold yours and in truth they should never stand in the way of friendship even if they differ. in truth again this is what this book has created more than anything the divides that seperate men and women who believe, or hold too, simple differences in opinion. if i had to give a reason for this book to exist then the reason i have just stated is one of the most obvious one's.

all i will say is that predictions should be replaced with blue prints and then it is quite logical how this could happen, penned by wordsmiths deliberately, as i said before for a desired outcome - but again only in my opinion.

no they have no symbol they have no need of one.

John x

[Geronimo]

I think i stopped beleving in religion when, as an alter boy, the priest told me to meet him outside at the back of the church as he wanted to show me testimonials. Father Zipptugger carried his bible in his underpants and at the first sign of heresy, which always seem to happen when no other adults were present, would lift his cassock and reach for the good book. This would on occasion take 20 minutes of rummaging with two hands in his off white undies before he produced the evil smelling book, with a a glazed look in his eye. I once saw him attacked while serving mass on a sunday by a father and bigger brother of the main choir boy, they jumped him as he knelt to kiss the alter,..he was a good professional though, after they had booted him for a good 10 minutes and then left, he struggled up, hair sticking out at an acute angle, glasses askew, smiling through missing teeth he made the sign of the cross as he blessed the congregation while announcing "you pays your money and takes your choice" and fell face forward into the flower display.
When he retired it was announced he was donating the bible to the local IVF clinic. Strangely enough birth rates went up if women took the book home to read in bed. The Church is now looking at the possibility this might be a series of miracle's, and if Father Zipptugger is in fact a living saint. A church poll has him recommended to be the patron saint of Tadpoles. Father Zipptugger was unavailable for comment on this suggestion as prison rules only allow him interviews with his solicitor.

[notguilty]

Hello John, are you privy to any information about any group or party that will in the near future present a lawful challenge to the current power structure? If so, can you name them here and will you be part of that challenge?
Thanks.