Can a man/woman owe money to a corporation or another person

[youngdan]

I would like to hear from all of the beleivers of the strawman or freeman on this subject and if so how and when can a man/woman have a legal obligation to pay the alleged debts of the man/woman.

Youngdan

[Anglo-Saxon]

A good and heavy question you raise and one which very few even anyone could really answer it is a very loaded question

Maybe we should first look up corporation

Without stating what many on this site realize already but WE are a Corporation ( each and everyone of us) from the day you were born from your birth certificate through Maritine & Admiralty which is banking law that is, your mother gives birth at the dock she is of ‘financial value’ ie common stock or preferential stock ( acommodity ) she is a ‘Corporation’ a business

What is the definition of Corporation

Definition
The most common form of business organization, and one which is chartered by a state and given many legal rights as an entity separate from its owners. This form of business is characterized by the limited liability of its owners, the issuance of shares of easily transferable stock, and existence as a going concern. The process of becoming a corporation, call incorporation, gives the company separate legal standing from its owners and protects those owners from being personally liable in the event that the company is sued (a condition known as limited liability). Incorporation also provides companies with a more flexible way to manage their ownership structure. In addition, there are different tax implications for corporations, although these can be both advantageous and disadvantageous. In these respects, corporations differ from sole proprietorships and limited partnerships.

Cor•po•ra•tion

1. A body that is granted a charter recognizing it as a separate legal entity having its own rights, privileges, and liabilities distinct from those of its members.
2. Such a body created for purposes of government. Also called body corporate.
3. A group of people combined into or acting as one body.
4. Informal A protruding abdominal region; a potbelly

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporation

Getting back to your post or to put it another way

corporation

Definitions (3)

1. Firm that meets certain legal requirements to be recognized as having a legal existence, as an entity separate and distinct from its owners. Corporations are owned by their stockholders (shareholders) who share in profits and losses generated through the firm's operations, and have three distinct characteristics,
(1) Legal existence: a firm can (like a person) buy, sell, own, enter into a contract, and sue other persons ( Don't know whether that 'persons' is your strawman ( otherwise known as the legal fiction) or the real you ) and firms, and be sued by them. It can do good and be rewarded, and can commit offence and be punished.

(2) Limited liability: a firm and its owners are limited in their liability to the creditors and other obligors only up to the resources of the firm, unless the owners give personal-guaranties.

(3) Continuity of existence: a firm can live beyond the life spans and capacity of its owners, because its ownership can be transferred through a sale or gift of shares.



Mind you, don’t know if a PERSON is YOU think it is.

Conclusion - Is your question referring to the following Corporations - Police, Local Authorities, Utility, companies,etc. etc. or to the Legal fiction Corporation, to the police, Local authority, etc. we are obliged to owe money to, as far as the LF is concerned cannot answer speak to a legal beagle.

http://www.businessdictionary.com/defin ... ation.html

[youngdan]

Anglo-saxon
I have come up with my vesion of what they are doing to deny us our rights by creating all of the various persons they attach to us.
Can a man or woman owe money to a corporation or quasi corporate government or another person?
My answer is no as it is not possible for the sovereign man/woman to interact with the corporate entity or paper entity but the man/woman can become a quasi corporate body/body corporate, ie, person, and interact with the other corporate entity, person, under that legal status as a corporate body/body corporate - person.
Therefor the man/woman cant owe anything to a corporation regardless of it being a quasi government/governing corporation, body politic or a commercial organization or another person.
The man/woman may have an obligation to settle the debts of the man's/woman's corporate body/body-corporate, ie, the new person created by the man/woman for the purposes of interacting or operating in the commercial world or body politic which we are forced to be a part of by the governing corporation/quasi Government under threats of fines and penalties for not enrolling or voting or driving without a licence, but this obligation can only be valid and enforceable at law if the man/woman has willingly authorized the creation of the person and accepted the liabilities and loss of rights with full knowledge of the implications of the legal status of the person being created by the man/woman.
Example of corporate-trust or new person:-
Mr John D Smith or John Doe SMITH or SMITH John Doe or MR J D SMITH or MR JOHN DOE SMITH or the many other variations except the person created by the governing body politic, the State, who created JOHN DOE SMITH for or and on your behalf for your benefit at birth with the implied consent of your parents and which you have not revoked or rescinded in by way of declaration filed and served on the creator of original person or the sovereign's corporate-trust.
If another person, corporate entity, ie, Bank, Telstra, Council or who ever, creates a corporate trust or new person for and on behalf of the man/woman for the purposes of interacting or doing business with the man/woman and creates this corporate-trust or new person with the full knowledge of the man/woman and he/she underwrites the obligations/liabilities of the corporate-trust or new person being created by signing the instrument-of-creation, Contract-Application-Deed with the full knowledge of the legal obligations/liabilities created by the corporate entity, and the waiving of some rights as the man/woman, then the man/woman does have a legal obligation to settle the debts of the Contract-Agreement-Deed entered into as the corporate-trust or new person.
If the above circumstance do not include “ with the full knowledge of the legal obligations/liabilities being created by the corporate entity, and the waiving of some rights as the man/woman “ then the man/woman does not have any legal obligation to settle the debts of the Contract-Agreement-Deed entered into as the corporate-trust or new person as the creation of the new person was or could have been done for the specific purpose of having a controlling interest in and over the property of the man/woman or the property of the sovereign's corporate-trust, ie property belonging to Joh- Doe; Smith the man  or JOHN DOE SMITH which was created by the body politic at the birth of the man and with the man being the beneficiary and the State having equity and also being the trustee.
If the creation of the new person with a name, other than that of the man's/woman's true and correct name on the Contract-Application-Deed, was done after the man/woman had signed or under-written the originating document, Contract-Application-Deed and underwritten the new obligation/liabilities of the new person, the corporate entity or other person has engaged in fraud by changing the true and correct man's/woman's name that was or could have been done for the specific purpose of having a controlling interest in and over the property of the man/woman or the property of the sovereign's corporate-trust, ie property belonging to John- Doe; Smith. or JOHN DOE SMITH.