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Re: Sucess Stories

Postby Psyrus » Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:21 pm

Natural Person(s)’’ means a living soul, as distinguished from an artificial person created by law. See Blacks Law Dictionary, 7th ed.



Dunno if someone already made that point i only skim read the posts, but yeah, there it is.
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Re: Sucess Stories

Postby bigglesinuk » Mon Jul 13, 2009 7:58 pm

As I understand it, Commercial Law cannot be applied to human beings. It can only be applied to corporations. Common Law applies to humans beings. That is why they have to get joinder between the human and the artificial person. Courts de Facto are commercial courts dealing with civil cases involving fines, debts etc. Courts de Jure are common law courts dealing with criminal cases tried by jury.

So, if it is a commercial matter (statutes) it is Admiralty law and they are referring to the artificial person and trying to con the human into answering to it, and if it is a criminal matter they are referring to the human.
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Re: Sucess Stories

Postby asky » Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:25 pm

Not one significant success story after 30 years (yes this has been around that long)

Any success with the template letters is more likely that they cant be bothered writing back for the penalty notices or credit card debts (as you say they never suffered a loss)
Its much easier to chase someone else but if they start getting more letters then they will make sure the change the status quo to suit there agenda.
Your success will be your undoing.

You cant beat something with the same things that created it.

If you want the answer to beating the system it is so simple and is hidden plain sight.

But you need to see it yourself as you wont believe someone if they told you.

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Re: Sucess Stories

Postby sleeping.scorpion » Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:18 pm

There seem to be a multitude of success stories, a multitude, mary croft et al. as well as many people becoming completly debt free.
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Re: Sucess Stories

Postby asky » Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:33 pm

Multitude?????
just a few initial postponments

Mary Croft lives off handouts ("people just give me money" quote from her book)
Shes a nothing more than a beggar with a styrofoam cup
Check out my other post for a success story.
Rob menard asks for checks paid direct to him not "think free" he says he doesnt have a bank account???

full of bullshit.

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Re: Sucess Stories

Postby FreeMind » Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:36 am

I know of many companies that cashes cheques for a fee of 6-7%

No bank account required
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Re: Sucess Stories

Postby Napalmtheelf » Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:44 am

In the end, I firmly believe that if someone who has integrity and who honestly wishes to aid and benefit others, has discovered a fact or a process, or a piece of information that will set others free, they will not add a price tag.

I dont recall the disciples selling tickets at the sermon on the mount. (ITS A METAPHOR!!!, before I get balled out my kneejerk reactionaries)
People giving donations, well, thats down the the individual, but charging people for your insight.....nah, shouldnt happen.
And if a so called freeman is charging, getting money for their information etc, then I, guessing that they're not that free after all are they?
Yep, people have to live and fair enough, but how can something sold to another, make them free?
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Re: Sucess Stories

Postby sleeping.scorpion » Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:50 am

I take your points on board. My opinion is also that, if you know we are all being hoodwinked, and you have a way out - knowledge of redemption, then in the true spirit of humanity and brother/sisterhood you would share freely.

Anyhow, what do you make of this story on MSE forums re 15k Credit Card ebt being written off because bank couldnt provide signed credit agreement:

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/sho ... ?t=1730261

???
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Re: Sucess Stories

Postby RobbieHall » Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:26 pm

sleeping.scorpion wrote:Anyhow, what do you make of this story on MSE forums re 15k Credit Card ebt being written off because bank couldnt provide signed credit agreement:

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/sho ... ?t=1730261

???


This is due to a change in the Consumer Credit Act which happened in May 2007. Any Credit Agreements taken out before this date are likely to be unenforcable due to many banking institutions not describing the terms of the credit fully in the agreement. Any taken out after this time are subject to a different CCA which means they are totally enforcable, it has nothing to do with any description of a "person".

Anyone that thinks they might have an unenforcable agreement should go to: http://www.penaltychargesforum.co.uk.

There are lots of helpful people there that know their stuff. They base their knowedge on solidly provable parts of the law.
And what about the law that marks him still better — the pretty branding instrument invented by the overfed to protect themselves against the hungry? - Joseph Conrad
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Re: Sucess Stories

Postby Jargon buster » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:02 pm

Are there any documents from court that prove that this theory works (legal fiction) as in a case dismissed or a win and compensation awarded.

If there was it would make it easier for new people to get involved

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