I have a coucil tax summons

[Aries of the Rule]

to magistrates court...
Do I just write NO CONTRACT on it and hand It In prior to the date of summons?

[Jackisace86]

dont do NO CONTRACT... Reply to them telling them that you want to have a fair and public hearing judged by jury. Then you can appeal to the jury of the unlawful council tax being imposed on you.. If you have a good hearing and manage to get across all the relevant arguments it could be the big turn around we have all been hoping for..

However if you dont know all the relevant arguments i would suggest you go about it another route..

Possibly getting in touch with the council, telling them that you dont have enough money, and that you will pay them £1 a month... Then they cant take you to court because your actually making payments (I think, dont quote me on that!)..

In either case your going to want to get as much research done as you can if your going to win/get away with it...

[umbongo82]

dont do NO CONTRACT... Reply to them telling them that you want to have a fair and public hearing judged by jury. Then you can appeal to the jury of the unlawful council tax being imposed on you.. If you have a good hearing and manage to get across all the relevant arguments it could be the big turn around we have all been hoping for..

However if you dont know all the relevant arguments i would suggest you go about it another route..

Possibly getting in touch with the council, telling them that you dont have enough money, and that you will pay them £1 a month... Then they cant take you to court because your actually making payments (I think, dont quote me on that!)..

In either case your going to want to get as much research done as you can if your going to win/get away with it...

There will never be jury trial, there is no recourse for this action in Council Tax law. Nothing but payment in full would stop court action Good advice on contacting them to make a payment plan.

@ Aries

On what grounds do you feel you shouldn't pay council tax? Do you not owe it or should you not be liable (moved etc.)?

[hurn]

to magistrates court...
Do I just write NO CONTRACT on it and hand It In prior to the date of summons?

dont listen to the ones that say blah blah
you do what you feel in ya heart if you thinks its wrong then it is and you do what you feel neccisary if enough peops in england go down this road then things will change and they will no matter what the blah blah s say and it will change all you blah blahs have you not seen what is happening on this planet the real humans are getting sick of the masters and are revolting against there system

[Joe Soper]

I received a summons to appear at Basildon Magistrates Court, I found out that the summons was initially issued by the finance dept at Thurrock Borough Council, I tried to contact the jusitices clerks office at Basildon Magistrates to enquire further about my phoney summons and ended up being put in touch with one the courts legal advisors, I asked, "since when did a council finance dept have the judicial power to issue a court summons", he replied, "they don't". The trouble is, they bloody well are issuing summons for those against council tax payments, every time I asked a question regarding the legality of council tax - he refused to comment or tried to bamboozle me with legal hogwash, anyway, the hearing will be conducted under statute, as they, the council informed me that they are 'BOUND BY STATUTE' (is this true?), If so I will have to play the game of representing my legal fiction as a third party and hopefully give the best account of myself as I can, however, if anyone has any last minute advise for a budding FMOTL please contact asap. All the best Joe.

[umbongo82]

Before going down the 'legal fiction' and 'no consent' route, read this recent case and the judges comments on such things:

http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/Resources/J ... watson.pdf

[Joe Soper]

I have just returned from a court appearance at the Essex Magistrates Court for non-payment of council tax, It was a most bizarre experience. My first words to the panel of 3 magistrates were "are you acting under you oath during these proceedings", but instead of the layman magistrates replying to my question - a spokeswoman who was sitting in front of their bench suddenly chimed in and said, "all magistrates take the oath of allegience". I put several questions regarding the legality of council tax to both the magistrates and the legal representative from the Thurrock Borough Council, (most of the legal reps answers consisted of "I cannot answer or I do not know "), each time I directly spoke to the magistrates the spokeswoman seemed to be doing their answering? The 3 magistrates neither spoke to me, gestured or made enquiry as to the reasons for my refusal to pay, (other than say that they had no questions for me - they did nothing). The Thurrock Council legal team were insistant that a liability order be made despite all my efforts to get a fair hearing, (which, I can assure you did not happen), and the magistrates made not attempt to question their blatant unlawful use of the law and agreed without any hesitation. To me, the whole proceeding reeked of corruption, as though the magistrates and the Thurrock Council had it all worked out between them, so as to neutralise anyone who tried to get to the truth. It seems that only Common Law intervention can provide justice in this matter. I now have a liability order, however, I will continue to research and use any lawful means I can find to stop these thieving bastards. Joe

[Tim.lee]

Joe Soper » Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:48 pm
I have just returned from a court appearance at the Essex Magistrates Court for non-payment of council tax, It was a most bizarre experience. My first words to the panel of 3 magistrates were "are you acting under you oath during these proceedings", but instead of the layman magistrates replying to my question - a spokeswoman who was sitting in front of their bench suddenly chimed in and said, "all magistrates take the oath of allegience". I put several questions regarding the legality of council tax to both the magistrates and the legal representative from the Thurrock Borough Council, (most of the legal reps answers consisted of "I cannot answer or I do not know "), each time I directly spoke to the magistrates the spokeswoman seemed to be doing their answering? The 3 magistrates neither spoke to me, gestured or made enquiry as to the reasons for my refusal to pay, (other than say that they had no questions for me - they did nothing). The Thurrock Council legal team were insistant that a liability order be made despite all my efforts to get a fair hearing, (which, I can assure you did not happen), and the magistrates made not attempt to question their blatant unlawful use of the law and agreed without any hesitation. To me, the whole proceeding reeked of corruption, as though the magistrates and the Thurrock Council had it all worked out between them, so as to neutralise anyone who tried to get to the truth. It seems that only Common Law intervention can provide justice in this matter. I now have a liability order, however, I will continue to research and use any lawful means I can find to stop these thieving bastards. Joe

well nice one joe to ask the rotton mags for there oath's i myself have done this twice and both times its the so called clark that answers the question about it, she told me the same.. all mags take n honner them but the 2nd time i asked i blanked her n asked again, out of 3 only one said with a loud voice YES.. and now can we get on to it.. it was said in a loud northen accent , well i am i northener but it was like a clip from max n paddy. i think there was a few sly smerks from it.. anyway well done

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