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Strawman Birth Certificate

Postby TheAntagonist » Tue Nov 01, 2011 6:25 pm

Hi

Not sure if this is the right place to post this question but might as well dump it here and see what kind of answers I get. I read somewhere - don't know if it was on here or what - that the Birth Cetificate gets floated around on the Stock Market. I just need to investgate this and see for myself and was wondering if anyone else has come across definiive proof that this is the case. If so where can I look to uncover this so-called fact?

Appreciate and logical answers and critiques to this question.

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Re: Strawman Birth Certificate

Postby delbertwilkins » Tue Nov 01, 2011 6:54 pm

After registration of a child, various trusts are created and bonds generated from those and it is these bonds and securities that are traded on the stock exchange.

You won't find definitive proof because the whole banking system is designed so you and I don't get to know what goes on behind the scenes.

You can check with HM Treasury for information regarding what is know as `gilts`, these are genuine bonds that are sold to other countries, the value attached by the sweat equity of the slaves of a nation.

Bottom line is, Roman slaves were never meant to know anything about the trillions made from our energy.
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Re: Strawman Birth Certificate

Postby freemenorthants » Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:51 pm

so i like to know how to live with out it and drive when able to not using dvla con, froms etc, i do not consent to be controled of my human being, so where would i find any info who to do this? i welcome any help.
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Re: Strawman Birth Certificate

Postby Random Iteration » Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:43 am

Bonds are traded on the bond market and stocks are traded on the stock market. To say your birth certificate is traded on the bond market is absurd and plain false. It is not a financial product.
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Re: Strawman Birth Certificate

Postby vanilla » Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:26 pm

delbertwilkins wrote:You can check with HM Treasury for information regarding what is know as `gilts`, these are genuine bonds that are sold to other countries, the value attached by the sweat equity of the slaves of a nation.
Yes gilts are genuine bonds, but what on Earth does that have to do with birth certificates and slaves? Bonds are essentially like loans, someone gives you money in return for repayment with interest.

The idea that people are trading birth certificates makes no sense and there's no evidence to support it, so why do people keep insisting it must be true?
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Re: Strawman Birth Certificate

Postby biodegradablepsycho » Mon May 14, 2012 12:38 pm

Sometimes i want to scream !
Especially when peeps claim something as an absolute fact but then cannot provide absolute evidence. I often find these absolute truths to be a bit of a God argument and its is a matter of faith rather than absolute truth. It isnt really very helpful at all.
People told me the bank of england is a private bank FACT. so i spent many many months investigating. I could find no definitive evidence for it. The best i got to finding proof was with the bank of england nominees which is a private company. And the best i can do is imagine that the BOE is a front for the BOEN.
The same happened with the birth certificate. Its stamped crown copyright so the crown owns the name. But i found no proof as to what the crown claims copyright on.The crown copyright bit on my certificate is in relation to altering or falsifying. Its on bonded paper the same as stocks, shares and money, bonded paper is just a very high quality paper and you can buy bonded paper on the tinternet. The watermark is a crown and GRO for general registry office. A bank note has the queens head as watermark but no idea what watermark is on a stock ive never seen one. Basildon bond also has a watermark in its paper. And as for the number which is in the top right hand corner of mine i can find no evidence it is a share on the stock market.
Now obviously as i have spent many months of my time reserching these things i want to believe them, i want to find the evidence and the proof. And i want to be able to point that evidence out to other people so they dont go off investigating something to satisfy there curiosity, only to find no real evidence for something someone told them as an absolute FACT.
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Re: Strawman Birth Certificate

Postby biodegradablepsycho » Tue May 22, 2012 6:37 pm

I have done some digging into the birth certificate and have even phoned the GRO or general registry office. I was told by some people that the number on the certificate related to a stock share. The GRO said it is just the order number in the book. Explaining that the person who registered a child after i was registered would have a number one greater than the one on mine. To test this i have ordered another certificate. I am assuming that if the certificate is a stock share then that stock share will always have the same number ? So i now have two certificates and they do indeed have different numbers. I also asked about the crown copyright and looked into a bit of copyright law which is very complicated. Crown copyright is a bit different to copyright on art or music etc. The GRO explained that the copyright only referred to the way the form is printed and not to the name. Although that seems like a bit of a weak explanation.
What is interesting is that the birth certificate has a copyright to stop peeps copying or falsyfying. However a bank note doesnt have a copyright on it and neither does a passport that i can find. A birth certificate states it is not a means of identity. And yet it is the means of identity which is accepted to get a passport. And a passport is a means of identity. So here i am chasing my own tail. If anyone can help please feel free ill appreciate it enormously :)
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Re: Strawman Birth Certificate

Postby vanilla » Tue May 22, 2012 10:07 pm

biodegradablepsycho wrote:What is interesting is that the birth certificate has a copyright to stop peeps copying or falsyfying. However a bank note doesnt have a copyright on it and neither does a passport that i can find.

That's because copyright is automatically assigned to the people who created the work, e.g. the design of a banknote, there's no need to put the actual words "copyright belongs to So-and-so" on it.

Also I think there are laws specifically prohibiting the copying of banknotes and passports.
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Re: Strawman Birth Certificate

Postby biodegradablepsycho » Thu May 24, 2012 3:26 am

so therefore it would automatically stand that the printing of a birth certificate has copyright, so why specificaly say so on it ?
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Re: Strawman Birth Certificate

Postby vanilla » Thu May 24, 2012 1:02 pm

Probably because most people don't fully understand copyright. A lot of people assume that they can make copies of anything that doesn't have a copyright notice. A fair amount of people don't see it as a big deal to copy anything they want.
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