DVLA and de-registering your car. OFFICIAL

[hurn]

Well it's 4 months now since they stopped me for no insurance and stole my car and still no NIP or court date. They have 2 more months and then they can't do a thing. Ask yourself why they haven't taken action, is it because I refused to consent to their Statutory Laws? Personally I would love to go to their office or magistrates court and give them a good seeing to. If it comes to that though I would be looking for anyone who would be prepared to film it and publicise what is going on.

they dont care dude cos they just gonna crush it anyway then yll get a big bill of em

[frogmanbrabs]

Not possible to crush it because I got it back.

[cameronw33d]

Hi frogmanbrabs Was there any more letters from them, or did you have to approach them to get the car back. This is my first post but im trying to learn as much as i can before i put my knowledge to action on the road.

[frogmanbrabs]

They made me pay £150 to get the car back and now I have the codes for the gates to the compound if the car is stolen from me again I can just go into the compound and retrieve it. Of course there is a statute law which is known as TWOC (Taking Without The Owners Consent) but it's strange how this law doesn't apply to the person from the towing company. I'm looking for a way to take this matter up with the courts but not getting much help.

[foleyboy]

just a bit of advice from someone whos done all this before mate,
think long and hard before you take any more action.

a few things to consider:
1) what do you expect to gain from all this ?
2) how, in reality, do you expect the courts/police to react/deal with you and your actions?
3) what are you willing to give up in the meantime (money/time etc coz in my experience it cost alot of both)

you may be right in your views on what the law is and what applies to you and what doesnt (and i would probably agree with you) but just be very clear that 'they' dont give a shit and you will just end up wasting more money/time that you dont need to.

all i got out of going down this road (no pun intended ) was a few court appearances and a couple of thousand pound wasted on fines/charges,
oh, and the complete realisation from my court appearances that they DO NOT have any proof whatsever that statutes apply to me, nor do they need any coz its their game and their rules so only play if you wish to be subjected to more of the same treatment or REALLY know what your doing.

in hindsight i have to say i couldv done things alot better and kept myself out of court and my pockets a bit heavier by keeping my insurance/road tax going while i tried other ways to tackle the system, but it was a learning curver to say the least,

its easy to get gung-ho when you get in to this 'freeman' stuff, but as i say, tread carefully, theres no need to make your life more troublesome that it needs to be

all the best

[frogmanbrabs]

Thanks for the advice Foleyboy, I think I've calmed down a bit now and have taken a step back to look at the whole picture and take time over decisions.

[Incensed]

Good thread!
http://livingsovereign.org/

[Lexemes]

If you look at your situation and apply Common Law and stand firm you would not have had this problem. Did you reply to the letter from the DVLA ? You should have done and stated you have no contract with the DVLA and they have no jurisdiction over you or your car. If a policeman/constable or police officer approaches you, you do not allow him to "enjoin" you, (that is, enter into contract with him and his ruling corporation). You do not give him your name. You ignore all his questions and you ask him if he is a police officer or a policeman - there is a big difference. Under Common Law if he is a policeman/constable you tell him it is his duty to "keep the peace" under Common Law and nothing else. He has no right to question you, stop you or ask for your name, address or any identity. Don not stop for a police constable. Don't let him "enjoin" you, so do not answer his questions. He must keep the peace or get lost - he works for you and you are a free man who has done no harm to others and therefore cannot be prosecuted or have your liberty withheld. If he is a police officer, then you tell him he has no jurisdiction over you since he works for the English "Corporation" which you do not agree to be a part of.

There is a simple way to establish whether something is lawful, ask yoursellf "corpus delicti" : that is, "where is the victim" ? If there is no victim, you cannot be prosecuted under Common Law. So, if you are sent a fine for a speeding ticket, provided you did not kill anyone, there was no victim ergo, no crime to answer for and under Common Law you cannot be prosecuted or have your liberty withheld.

It has been consistently proven (but for obvious reasons the media do not publish it) in English courts that statutes can only be upheld in a court if they have our consent; that is if we agree to the statute. Further in Canadian, American and English courts, it has been proven consistently that Common Law supercedes statute (Admiralty Law) and Common Law is inaliénable. Are you aware it is treason, punishable by death to try and annilhate Common Law ? Common Law is the very fabric of our societies. As proven in the three aforementioned countries, Common Law can never be repealed or superceded. It stands.... forever. Know your rights under Common Law and you have won... providing you are honourable and in accordance with Common Law. Note, that when you try and look this up on the internet; the major media sites will try and twist this, ignore it or say that it is not so. Simply look to the judgements in our Courts and you will know the truth. As Lord Devlin stated in one of his judgements ".... statutes are only binding with our consent".

Remember all statutes are contract law and you can refuse to enter into that contract. When a policeman or officer asks if you are the driver of vehicle you state you are not the driver but a traveller going about personal business. "Driver" under statutory law means a person going about business under a corporation and that corporation being England and its police officers can stop and fine and tax you.

You need to be aware of Common Law (which is inaliénable and confirmed under the 1688-1689 English Bill of Rights). Common Law is the only law that matters. Nothing else. Get familiar with the Magna Carta of 1215 and English Bill of Rights 1688/9.