Does this stuff ever actually work for so-called violators?

[HVYMTL]

You said you were going to talk about what I'm upto... I'd be interested to hear what you have to say?

[Freeman Stephen]

I think your winning victories in a situation that appears unconcluded yet unwinnable for anyone but the system, since the system is simply being bled of its resources in order to feed its own arrogance.

[HVYMTL]

Well it's always been a war of attrition hasn't it? For the last several hundred years they have been very slowly eroding the constitution and our rights and freedoms. The turning point came in 2001 when the barons inverted the direction of lawful duty away from the Queen and her government, and made it possible for us to start wearing them down using the same methods they have been using on us. It's not a quick fix, but then it's not meant to be. Quick fixes are usually violent, the point of the exercise is to avoid violence. Over the coming decades I expect a growing number of people to realise that the Gov is no where near as powerful or tyrannical as they would like us to believe, and begin living their lives free from coercion. Whatever the Gov does to try and retake control will simply cost them more and more money, and the greater the number of people who know how it works, the quicker more will join in, and the quicker it will become untenable to carry on writing unconstitutional legislations. They won't give in easily, not while it's still profitable to carry on at least, but at the end of the day they are a business organisation and there is only so far they can carry on going into the red before they simply can't afford to hire anyone to enforce their bullshit anymore.

[Too Far Gone]

I wish I could agree with you but most people are out for themselves and dont give a crap about the bigger picture. Just take the recent fuel "Scare" for example. Everyone at the pumps, taking more than their fair share at the expense of everyone else.

Just pure greed and selfishness.

The government dont need any help dividing us, we're quite happy to do it for them.

[drivebuy]

I wish I could agree with you but most people are out for themselves and dont give a crap about the bigger picture. Just take the recent fuel "Scare" for example. Everyone at the pumps, taking more than their fair share at the expense of everyone else.

Just pure greed and selfishness.

The government dont need any help dividing us, we're quite happy to do it for them.

Have they not made this possible by given us the tools and education to devide ourselves,
The common man/woman is far to tied up to see where the submission leads,
Keep the poor downtrodden and they will never be able to uprise,
Do not allow them the wealth and knowege that will alow them to leave or revolt,Failure means we have no-one to goveren and our source of power or wealth would be removed,
Thus are the acts of parliment,


The common man has no need to defend his life, familyand wealth if he is not put into the place where he feels he must,

I feel that it is the few gready tyrants that have taken the the nature of manKIND as a way to make sure they will never be overthown,

[mfarmes]

24 reply but still no evidence of even one success

[Geronimo]

24 reply but still no evidence of even one success

Why dont you then take that as an success for what you are here for?

[State-Property]

The OP was about evidence that 'freeman' stuff works.

It doesn't.

What I see a LOT of 'freemen' whitter on (and on and on) about is the corruption here and the cheating there...

Whilst I will be the first to admit there is a LOT of corruption, the main problem seems to be a total lack of understanding of what constitutes 'law' in the UK and the processes of its application by police and the courts.

Simply because you don't understand the process does not make it corrupt...

For example they 'blah' on and on and on about 'common law' w/out having the first idea what common law even is!!

Ditto 'jurisdiction'.

Ditto 'I don't consent' etc.

What is the point of telling a court/cop you don't consent until you have established that consent is required in the first place????????????

So, to talk nonsense (for that is what it is if you haven't a clue what it means or how to use it appropriately) to judge or a cop who is itching to batter the hell out of you (I speak from painful experience) is just asking for trouble. And that is what they inevitably get. Trouble!

If I could give just one bit of 'advice' to 'freemen' it would be this: DO NOT BELIEVE WHAT 'GURUS' TELL YOU. GO DO SOME INDEPENDENT RESEARCH/STUDY!

...but I know I'd be wasting my time...

[Geronimo]

The OP was about evidence that 'freeman' stuff works.

It doesn't.

What I see a LOT of 'freemen' whitter on (and on and on) about is the corruption here and the cheating there...

Whilst I will be the first to admit there is a LOT of corruption, the main problem seems to be a total lack of understanding of what constitutes 'law' in the UK and the processes of its application by police and the courts.

Simply because you don't understand the process does not make it corrupt...

For example they 'blah' on and on and on about 'common law' w/out having the first idea what common law even is!!

Ditto 'jurisdiction'.

Ditto 'I don't consent' etc.

What is the point of telling a court/cop you don't consent until you have established that consent is required in the first place????????????

So, to talk nonsense (for that is what it is if you haven't a clue what it means or how to use it appropriately) to judge or a cop who is itching to batter the hell out of you (I speak from painful experience) is just asking for trouble. And that is what they inevitably get. Trouble!

If I could give just one bit of 'advice' to 'freemen' it would be this: DO NOT BELIEVE WHAT 'GURUS' TELL YOU. GO DO SOME INDEPENDENT RESEARCH/STUDY!

...but I know I'd be wasting my time...

How about pointing those who would be freemen in some sort of direction, might help them.

[State-Property]

There is a world out there of books and learning materials. We also have free will. May I suggest using it.....???

There was a hint in the words in CAPS AND BOLD in my last post. It meant DON"T EXPECT SOMEONE ELSE TO DO IT FOR YOU... hence the word "INDEPENDENT". It was also followed by a statement that I knew saying that would be a waste of time. That has now been reinforced