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Postby Billybunch » Tue May 01, 2012 1:43 pm

p_devlin wrote:
You state "Water only fasting can eliminate candida permanently quickly"..... Tried that several times.... didn't work. "ALL" carbohydrate feeds candida. Turmeric and milk thistle supports the liver, but I had to go a lot further than that to clear it. Some info you get in books or on the internet may work on some, but you wont know unless you try it out for your self. There's a lot of misinformation out there on how to get rid, but most of what p_devlin has posted I would agree on.

Has anyone ever had the pleasure themselves of trying to get rid of it?



Hi Billybunch, yes - I have completed many water only fasts. Varying from 2 to 28 days.
I have without exception found it to be the most effective way to detoxify the liver as it removes the working load almost immediately.

If you go onto curezone you will see that many people have and do water only fast. Some also dry fast which is extremely difficult.

Fear prevents many from fasting through to completion. But as you say - it is not for all, and being knowledgeable wrt recognising symptoms such as electrolyte imbalance or extremely reduced liver function and other complications are very important. This is why communities like curezone are helpful because to some extent taking responsibility for our own health requires shared knowledge and as you can see curezone provides support in this way by sharing knowledge.

Dependant on how long you fast,you will get varying degrees of herxhiemer reactions - this is also another source of fear

In retrospect - Short water only fasts lasting just a few days is probably what I should've stated but anyone contemplating fasting would be foolish not to research it thoroughly beforehand.



I've followed curezone plus many other candida related sites for years mate, Done the fasts many times over the years, been doing them since 1990. They do not permanently get rid of candida though....have you ever had the misfortune yourself of having a serious candida overload?

Killing the little critters is easy, it's eliminating them from the body. Water fasts, milkthistle, turmeric and the likes are not enough. Yes they detoxify, but sometimes the liver cant cope with such an overload and needs to be cleared......and that's when you have to take things a stage further.
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Re: New site

Postby Billybunch » Tue May 01, 2012 1:53 pm

Thomas wrote:
Has anyone ever had the pleasure themselves of trying to get rid of it?


I know some that say they have had some success with milk and cheese (not vegan) but it had to be natural milk and cheese made with natural milk (not pasteurised as that kills of all the good stuff too) and so some used goats milk as you could get that more easily and also didn't have all the pharmacy growth hormones injected in to cows (at the time; goats didn't.) Unfortunately it's very hard to get hold of natural stuff now. I used to be able to get it from an uncles farm, but now he just follows gov policy on it. (As a kid, I even drank it [fed it to my body] warm from the cows, just strained through a cloth; a healthy cow-s)


I tried that Thomas, the candida had a field day on the lactose ( MILK SUGAR). My mate rears goats, used to get unpasturised fresh goats milk from him and fresh unpasturised cows milk from my sons wifes parents who own a dairy farm.
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Re: New site

Postby Thomas » Tue May 01, 2012 2:05 pm

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Thanks Billy, I have personally have never had any fungal candida problems, but have mostly all my bodies years given it a rounded diet only cutting out some things in the last ten years (pork, as some say it retains some toxins as it doesn't sweat like those with cloven and chew the cud.) And only fish with scales and fins as others eat toxins (filter feeders for example; shrimps, mussels etc)
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Re: New site

Postby Billybunch » Tue May 01, 2012 2:25 pm

I think that's where I went wrong in the past Thomas ...I was reared from a very young age on a diet of mainly carbs/sugar.
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Re: New site

Postby p_devlin » Tue May 01, 2012 2:28 pm

Hi Billybunch, I should add to permanently bring about about a state of correct balance I had to stop with the simple carbohydrates ie processed sugar, wheat and foods containing - these 2 foods are the 2 that cause the most problems wrt candida.

so after a long fast - as you doubtless already know a period of adjustment - in my case several months was required where re-feeding helped me to re-condition my body correctly.

and yes I had candida - systemic and painful - chronic - not just bowel bloating.
Nothing with the exception of fasting removed candida!

In principle fasting does remove candida permanently. Maybe an incorrect term but for the sake of argument if sensible diet is then followed candida should not re-occur. the word completely would be more appropriate but the yeast form always remains as you know.

It would probably be more apt to say fasting causes candida that has transformed into one of its active forms as a fungus to die off by removing its food source and allowing the body to actively purge such toxins from the body.
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Re: New site

Postby Thomas » Tue May 01, 2012 2:36 pm

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I have fasted too and for over 40 days water only but for spiritual reasons, but still failed after 47 days as I failed to stand on the edge and prove something spiritually and then keep the body in control thereafter. But also alas, what doesn't kill the "self" (The object of the spiritual fast will make the ego "self" worse.) I had to do it again, there is no try only do.


For those interested, Maud' Dib did 65 days and was still walking around and His body was not over weight to begin with. I spent over a week grovelling on the floor at times after 38 days. But it was well worth it (paradoxically.)
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Re: New site

Postby p_devlin » Tue May 01, 2012 2:52 pm

Yes I am ready to do another fast soon.
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Re: New site

Postby Thomas » Tue May 01, 2012 2:56 pm

p_devlin wrote:Yes I am ready to do another fast soon.


Are you in a female body if you are talking about a spiritual fast?
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Re: New site

Postby Billybunch » Tue May 01, 2012 2:57 pm

p devlin wrote:Hi Billy Bunch, I should add to permanently bring about about a state of correct balance I had to stop with the simple carbohydrates are processed sugar, wheat and foods containing - these 2 foods are the 2 that cause the most problems with candida.

so after a long fast - as you doubtless already know a period of adjustment - in my case several months was required where re-feeding helped me to re-condition my body correctly.

and yes I had candida - systemic and painful - chronic - not just bowel bloating.
Nothing with the exception of fasting removed candida!

In principle fasting does remove candida permanently. Maybe an incorrect term but for the sake of argument if sensible diet is then followed candida should not re-occur. the word completely would be more appropriate but the yeast form always remains as you know.

It would probably be more apt to say fasting causes candida that has transformed into one of its active forms as a fungus to die off by removing its food source and allowing the body to actively purge such toxins from the body.


I got to that stage when fasting was doing me more harm than good. When my weight dropped down to 8 stone, along with the muscle wasting and low blood pressure, etc.....I knew then that it was time to try other ways, so I just carried on with my vegan diet which was feeding the little blighters.....and the show went on, a vicious circle.
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Re: New site

Postby p_devlin » Tue May 01, 2012 3:06 pm

Thomas wrote:
p_devlin wrote:Yes I am ready to do another fast soon.


Are you in a female body if you are talking about a spiritual fast?

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