acceptance for value works

[Andy N]

Of course people aren't paid to troll sites.


http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/27357/

Plenty more references if you bother to search.

[SbutC]

I must have missed the part where anybody claimed this *didn't* happen Andy.

The very obvious difference, though, is that there's a clear financial benefit to a company who recruits people to post positive comments about it's products online, as in your link. It's called marketing, albeit a rather undercover form of marketing. There'd be no benefit at all to pissing away taxpayer's money paying me to do this.

That people here think their posts deserve the attention of "TPTB" enough for them to pay government employees to come to this forum and ask questions is paranoid conspiracy theory. That people here think that people that disagree with them can only be government employees paid to do so is laughably self-important.

If I really *was* being paid to undermine lawful rebellion, do you think my employers would consider this particular thread worthy of spending my wages on!? Ha!

SbutC

[HVYMTL]

SbutC,

May I suggest that you might find the content available on the 'rational wiki' to be more palatable to your apparent particular level of intellect and mindset.

If you've never heard of it, and not wanting to state anything emphatically about you since I know nothing of your character outside of a few, shall we say, ill thought out comments which betray similarity to certain other well known posters who often seem to choose usernames starting with the letter 'J', the rational wiki is written by various know-it-all quasi-intellectuals who delight in using rhetoric and lame comic devices like 'pseudo-legal woo' to establish and support their narcisstic need to be seen as being 'smarter' than the people whose ideas they attempt to debunk using the aforementioned quasi-intellectual and rhetorical arguments which are often laced with glaring logical fallacies which they seem completely and blissfully unaware of. Go figure.

As for the the _TOPIC_ at hand on this thread, imho it's possible that the A4V information is correct and works for people inside the banking circles, however I am certain that any of us peasants who attempt to do as they do rather than do as they say will, in all likelihood, spend so much time butting our heads against various walls of ignorance that little to no progress or success can be enjoyed even if the argument is 100% correct and lawful.

I base this opinion, not on having ever tried such things but simply on the fact that the fiat money system itself works in a radically different way to how the 'average joe' believes it works, and it strikes me as quite likely that the people inside that system would of made sure that they themselves cannot be enslaved by it by the simple means of making sure that they themselves always have a 'get out of jail free' card, and that such methodologies are kept primarily behind closed doors and away from the attention of the lower level minions who we all have to deal with.

If that sounds unlikely, then I ask, if you were Bill Gates, would you share the complete source code to windows with your front line support staff? Of course not, because if you did, then they could use that information to collapse your monopoly on it. If Bill can keep his source code a secret from most if not all of his lower level staff, then I'm sure bankers can just as readily keep their methods and secrets from most of their staff as well.

[SbutC]

Hi HVYMTL,

I'm not sure what you mean by "betray similarity", and I have no idea who is the "J" you refer to.

I'm broadly in agreement with your last three paragraphs though - as you say, it would have its purposes within the banking world in certain circumstances. I too believe that A4V isn't available to just anybody who provides the right form of words, which makes me justifiably skeptical of the original post's claim.

SbutC

[HVYMTL]

Hi HVYMTL,

I'm not sure what you mean by "betray similarity", and I have no idea who is the "J" you refer to.

About a year or so ago, there were two posters here who both had usernames beginning with the letter J. Anyone whos been around here long enough knows exactly who I am talking about and why it is that your comments bear more than a passing resemblance to the sort of things they used to say. In particular as a couple of others picked up on, your use of the term "anybody" as it were that you were speaking for us all. I see you deny that the comment was intended in that context but I think it would be wise to at least recognise that the comment as written had that implication even if you maintain you did not intend it.

I'm broadly in agreement with your last three paragraphs though - as you say, it would have its purposes within the banking world in certain circumstances. I too believe that A4V isn't available to just anybody who provides the right form of words, which makes me justifiably skeptical of the original post's claim.

SbutC

Personally I've never pursued much information on this subject so I really can't comment other than to say that given how fiat currency really works, and how radically different it is from what we all thought it was, it is not beyond reason that there are old legislations laid down in the early days of this currency format which provide remedy to those who know how to use them.

It's becoming quite clear to me that typical modus operandi of the system is to always protect itself from the application of it's own rules by utilising the general publics misconceptions and ignorance of how things really work, and this A4V stuff seems no different.

[Geronimo]

Yes he claims that, do we have proof he hasn't, are we to believe he lied until he proves otherwise?

I've already said that I have no issue with believing the fact that he wrote the letter. Twisting my words is a favourite of yours isn't it. I have at no time implied that he lied about anything.

Why, it doesnt follow, does it?

He struggles to write coherant English, so yes, it follows absolutely that he would struggle to write coherant *technical* English. This is called logic, not opinion.

Well obviously for you it is, but as someone who comes across as very pedantic im sure you appriecate others being in the same vein

You're not being pedantic though, because there's nothing left to be pedantic about following your misunderstanding and my clarification. You're merely refusing to give up a point that has no substance.

I of course dont have to enter into the subject to say what i think of your comments to and about the OP. Its his thread he has the right to post as he feels fit without being conditioned not to post in future for fear of ridicule.

He has 300+ posts over 2 years - I have no concerns that this will stop him continuing to post. I'm not disputing his right to post anything he likes, but it's a public forum and anybody (yes, "anybody"!) has the right to challenge his opinion if he *chooses* to supply zero evidence for what he's saying. But we already know from the TV License post that backing up your points isn't a requirement for conversation in Geronimo's world.

SbutC

And there you have the whole shebang of your attitude. What was i to back up in the licene thread? You try to draw people out by trying to get them answering questions they feel they dont have to answer or want to answer and when they dont you then claim victory. Your not paid to do what you do, your worse than that, you do it because you have to be right all the time.

The Op owes you no explanation. If it was my thread id tell you to P off and not come back and you could claim what you like but you would be 'persona non grata' on the thread. Let that happen a few times and the human condition of wanting to belong might over come your ego to be right...but there again who knows it might not.

[SbutC]

You didn't have to back up anything yourself, but twice you rushed to the side of posters who made unsupported assertions that "X happened because of Y", before they'd even had a chance to respond. Hence "Geronimo's world"; where nothing a person says should ever be challenged; where opinion and misunderstanding are encouraged to misrepresent as fact.

What's telling is your determination in this thread. To an eye skeptical of the OP's claim, your strong belief that it should be protected from any kind of scrutiny is akin to religion.

I'll be leaving this thread alone now, it's suffered enough.

SbutC

[Geronimo]

You didn't have to back up anything yourself, but twice you rushed to the side of posters who made unsupported assertions that "X happened because of Y", before they'd even had a chance to respond. Hence "Geronimo's world"; where nothing a person says should ever be challenged; where opinion and misunderstanding are encouraged to misrepresent as fact.

What's telling is your determination in this thread. To an eye skeptical of the OP's claim, your strong belief that it should be protected from any kind of scrutiny is akin to religion.

I'll be leaving this thread alone now, it's suffered enough.

SbutC

"Geronimo's world" is a place where all are welcome and even if those who antagonise or deliberately take counter stances they will be welcomed... as one welcomes the entertainment on stage.

I rushed to the side of the OP, who you decided was not to be considered because he spelt words wrong, or his grammer wasn't up to some standard you decided has to be in place.
I'd of done the same if the OP had been presenting his case that horses didn't exist in the form we believe, but were all a myth or selling strategy by entrepreneurs selling horse's from fields grazed around a nuclear power station.

religion of any sort i think is really a bad joke but many like bad jokes so let them have their fun.

As for leaving the thread, im sure a bad guest is a good guest when they realise they are not welcome and leave.

[freemenorthants]

well it has worked and as i have no two party signed contract and not addressed to me but via blacks law, i am not a perosn, my account has been now credited correctly and do not now the anount calimed and so, yes did does work ones one fills in the payment slip correct wording and its worked 2 times this yr,

[umbongo82]

well it has worked and as i have no two party signed contract and not addressed to me but via blacks law, i am not a perosn, my account has been now credited correctly and do not now the anount calimed and so, yes did does work ones one fills in the payment slip correct wording and its worked 2 times this yr,

Black's law is AMERICAN. Do you get it? Do you? This is the UK, not the USA? Quoting it is irrelevant.