Geronimo wrote:Ill think you'll find the tro...the poster who was stirring the pot will slink away to another thread and start the bridge work there now.
Jesus, man! What is your problem exactly? Coming back to this thread to make a further post that adds nothing to the discussion but to bait me into responding? I was planning on leaving the thread alone, but I guess I'll have one final try since it seems you really want me to do so.
ljtherock wrote:"Prioritisation", they dont have such beyond, trying on their luck because the reality being they know that the majority just conform and therefore they will always get their funds.
There will never be anything other than economics that play in their act, simply that to collect £150 plus from anyone but have to spend any amount above that would be false economics.
It could be seen that in the odd case they will enact the false economics on the basis that the poor souls who fall foul of it will become "deterrents".
Exactly my point - it seems we're in agreement here. TVL will focus their resource where it has value to them to do so.
The above aside though, "I do not need a tv license and nor does any other." This is fact...
Their is a part of their law that amounts to; If you do not know that a rule being applied against you is not law then it applies as if it were. A get out of truth clause for the claimed authorities.
Anyone being enforced to hand over money, rights belongings etc against their will only needs to face down their conditioned fears and look at what they claim in the sense of foundational evidence is false.
THEY have no authority except by force or coercion, beyond that nothing.
Firstly, one only needs to enquire as to where they claim their authority derives and follow the chain back unto the point that it is broken and no foundational evidence can be proved beyond that first broken link.
Please do not iterate to me that all legislation is done via consent as that is transparently false.
I do not need a "Green Letter" from them to state I can do anything as that is tantamount to declaring I need their permission as they are in authority over and above others. I need no such thing any more than I require their license as one and the other are facsimile but the one is free as opposed to costed...
This is your opinion. TVL have a different opinion of whether what they do is compliant with the law. I'm not going to get into the whole legislation/statute issue because it is opinion. What *aren't* opinion are the actual methods by which the TVL work. You disagree with the legal requirement for a green letter, but to state "I do not need one" is your opinion, and not an explanation for events as you have described them. The methods by which we can assume the TVL work *are* an explanation.
SbutC wrote:As you said, there are much easier targets out there - people who will incriminate themselves, admit their liability and pay up. You're obviously not an easy target at all and it's ludicrous to claim you are. It'd require significantly more time, human resource and cost to progress your case - and I'm sure (and TVL realise) that you'd fight them every step of the way. That they haven't taken you to court yet is merely down to prioritisation. How do you know this? If it was down to "no contract", they'd have handed you a green letter the first time you told them you didn't want their services.
How do I know this? Deduction.
1) ljtherock told TVL he didn't contract with them when they first visited him
2) TVL made several subsequent visits
1) TVL allocate their (finite) resource rationally
1) TVL stopped pursuing ljtherock for payment because he refused to contract with them
Deduced to be incorrect because we know they returned to his house on at least two occasions after his first "no contract". If they considered "no contract" a valid reason for non-payment, they wouldn't have returned.
2) TVL stopped pursuing ljtherock for payment because he was uncooperative and they did not believe it worth committing the necessary resource to take his case further.
Deduced to be likely given the information presented to us and the above assumption.
3) TVL stopped pursuing ljtherock for some reason other than 1) or 2)
Impossible to know given the information presented to us.