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The Right of Self-Determination

Postby squiggleduck » Sun Jan 25, 2009 7:47 am

This starts with an overview of the Constitution for the United States but the goes onto the Law of Nations and many other things including contracts, forming societies and commercial redemption regarding liens (Security Agreements) etc.

EDIT: Direct links below as four parts (1 hour 36 mins)
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Re: The Right of Self-Determination

Postby squiggleduck » Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:40 am

Direct links, videos as four parts...

Part 1. www.themillionairenu.com/rosd-pt1.swf (24 mins)
Part 2. www.themillionairenu.com/rosd-pt2.swf (24 mins)
Part 3. www.themillionairenu.com/rsod-pt3.swf (24 mins)
Part 4. www.themillionairenu.com/rsod-pt4.swf (24 mins)

Covering how to make your own societies and why you have no standing to use the "commercial redemption" process.
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Re: The Right of Self-Determination

Postby Heven » Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:18 pm

Thanks for posting these up squiggleduck .

We have had to explain to many people emailing us regarding the Commercial Redemption that Standing in Commerce Forum was nothing to do with TPUC .
It was set up by others and we did not agree with it.
As all will have seen it was removed from our site over the Christmas holidays due to another seminar being set up which was a huge amount of money to attend and we did not agree with this considering it was being carried out under the banner of TPUC.
There was inadequate support of people going down this avenue and we were getting the flack and being inundated with questions that we were not able to answer due to not knowing anything on this subject.
There are certain people that have brought CR into TPUC forum . That is fine if they wish to explore and discuss this.
I put a comment last night as there are a new bunch of guys doing seminars and recruiting on here, but in my opinion they are getting above themselves and should tread with due care as they are playing a big boys game and it could all end in tears , I do not think people are aware of the implications when entering into CR with out having really understood it.

We believe there is certain information regarding your PERSON etc which is of use as people will understand that they have a PERSON attached to them but they are not a PERSON as well as other bits of useful info.

However it is a dangerous path to tread and there is no dead cert remedy for the common man.
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Re: The Right of Self-Determination

Postby FreeManAndHisDog » Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:20 am

Heven, thanks.

We - the people behind squiggleduck (which I sometimes have some input to though I use my own handle mainly), the people behind the Common Law Subreddit (News) and myself - have been studying this for some time trying to see what the "commercial redemption" is all about and its validity. We have a small group of people here in Japan from many different countries, though I'm from England.

squiggleduck has mainly been posting up everything for information, without trying to add any opinion or bias to it, except for when something is established as solid evidence, which I think is the best way for everyone to decide through their own reasoning. I know I've had to asses and re-asses all this information time and time again.

When there are contradictions from reasoning, but both seem to be built on reason, then something has to give - you have to go to the root of the matter.
The material presented by this chap in "The Right of Self-Determination" is exactly what we have been trying to explore over the last year to find what contradictions will give. Although he has made much more sound progress and he says the same things that we had established separately.

I think this is also supportive of what Robert Arthur Menard presented in his very cunning plan with good information for establishing self-determining societies.

Does anyone know who this chap is? Is it the same guy who uses the handle loooooong?
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Re: The Right of Self-Determination

Postby Superlandlady » Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:20 am

I have had some experience with the group of people you are talking about. I would agree with some of Heven's comments.
However, if the instruments are used for unsecured debt, then the double accounting entries can be zeroed and there is no harm done.
It (CR) should be left at this.
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Re: The Right of Self-Determination

Postby FreeManAndHisDog » Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:13 am

Superlandlady wrote:I have had some experience with the group of people you are talking about. I would agree with some of Heven's comments.
However, if the instruments are used for unsecured debt, then the double accounting entries can be zeroed and there is no harm done.
It (CR) should be left at this.


Superlandlady, I'd be grateful if you could expand on that statement, or point me to where there is more details specifically on that.

Also, if you have contact with the group I'd be very grateful, I wish to make contact with them; either the guy that did this, the SEA (Sovereign Earth Alliance) group he mentions, and/or some other related group. (O)

He also mentions something like "The dominion" or something like that, but I couldn't find a relevant group - I get too many Star Trek hits. Do you know anything about this group?
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Re: The Right of Self-Determination

Postby Superlandlady » Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:58 pm

I would have to explain it in a private message as most of the guys do not agree with the concept of cr. I don't either in principle.
Regarding the group: we were asked not to disclose the details but they do run courses (£200 for 2 days) on the subject of CR. I have approached them for help and have gotten some. However, I've rushed ahead of myself and did something which I should not have which had cost me a fair bit of money. But lesson was learned. I acted on their 'advice' taken up by enthusiasm and convinced that they knew exactly what they were doing. Wrong assumption. Plus I paid them a LOT of money to help me personally with certain things. It was my choice (uninformed, rushed, naive,and very trusting) but it was the choice I have made.
I got something out of it but I lost something too. Their services do not come free. I think they've sort of incorporated (or semi) and have published their 'working hours' so you can not just contact them when you want.
I cannot give out details as I was asked not to so sorry if above appears to be vague. I do not wish to be criticising them or make them look bad. If I have any grievancies, I have only myself to blaim. If you want more info on other stuff or you have an urgent issue (like a court case etc), you can sent me a pm and I'll try to help if I can.
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Re: The Right of Self-Determination

Postby FreeManAndHisDog » Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:32 pm

Superlandlady, thanks for the information.

I'm not interested in the "commercial redemption" part of it as I have no debt and never take on debt that I cannot repay, but I am interested in so many other things. I'm very busy now so I'll get back to you on this.


The Right of Self-Determination as 4 parts (1 hour 36 mins)...

1. www.themillionairenu.com/comeout.php (24 mins) [VID File]
2. www.themillionairenu.com/out2.php (24 mins) [VID File]
3. www.themillionairenu.com/out3.php (24 mins) [VID File]
4. www.themillionairenu.com/out4.php (24 mins) [VID File]

Other files from: getoutofthesystem.net/page11

Audios

1. www.themillionairenu.com/pam.php [AUD File]
2. www.themillionairenu.com/duality.php [AUD File]
3. www.themillionairenu.com/aaron.php [AUD File] <-- new: aaron
4. www.themillionairenu.com/law.php [AUD File] <-- new: common law discussion

Additional Audios
o www.themillionairenu.com/outoftime.php [AUD File 1] [AUD File 2] [AUD File 3] [AUD File 4]
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Re: The Right of Self-Determination

Postby FreeManAndHisDog » Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:41 am

It looks like the Law of Nations is the written and unwritten protocols (law) between nations that came about over many hundreds of years. So there are several writings on the Law of Nations, most of which are old documents and texts and are not available on the Internet and only available in some big libraries.

This book is on at least some of the Law of Nations to which the Constitution for the United States of America refers...
- The Law of Nations - Principles of the Law of Nature Applied to the Conduct and Affairs of Nations and Sovereigns


It is claimed that the Law of Nations has been superseded by International Law as administered by the United Nations since the United States became a member of the United Nations. However, this is more complex than it seems, relating to the original jurisdiction United States going in by Treaty, or the United States Corporation going in...
- Critical History
- History
- Historical Outline


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Note that the Constitution defines a Trust...

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

- Constitution for the United States of America, with correct proper noun / capitonym usage maintained as expressed in the original written document.

The Trustors are the People, the Trustee is the United States of America and the Beneficiary is the Posterity.

More information...
- The Constitution is a Trust Indenture
- Contracts, Trusts and the Corporation Sole
- Citizen vs. citizen
- Corporate U.S.
- The People and the Trust
- Is the U.S. a corporation?

Just as the Charter for the United Nations also defines a Trust...

We, the Peoples of the United Nations have determined to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war...

- UN Charter, with correct proper noun / capitonym usage maintained as expressed in the original written document.


The preamble defines and brings the Trust into existence. - Who is trusting what to who. After the preamble is then defined its jurisdiction / scope to which the trust is established - what rights are entrusted to it. The rights of the created entity - the Trustee - may not reach further than this, lest it be encroaching on your unalienable common law rights and freedoms, and overstepping the jurisdiction you entrusted it with.


A 'corporation' is also a type of Trust, if limited liability or registered under some entity, is not sovereign in its own jurisdiction, but is limited further by the jurisdiction in which it is registered under.
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Re: The Right of Self-Determination

Postby FreeManAndHisDog » Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:27 am

The man is a member of the SEA (Sovereign Earth Alliance) which is now a member of the Family of Nations, and so he is not the Posterity of the People as given in preamble of the Constitution for the United States of America, and so is also not one of the 'Citizens' that is a defined entity and role under it.

- See the SEA (Sovereign Earth Alliance) Charter [PDF].

Their members can be contacted at: getoutofthesystem.net/page15


*** EDIT: Incorrect Information removed ***


There are some similarities to claims of the Lakotah (treaty, 1851, 1868) (Unitaleral Withdrawal) and the claims of the other Native American group (treaty, 1763) that I don't quite catch the name of.


Who we are...

It has been forgotten that we are "people" that created government or had government created on our behalf and so is our aggregate Trust. We are not the created entities such as the 'Subject', 'Citizen', 'Resident', or 'Alien' (unilateral contract to have your personal Trust liened and to assume a role) that it created as a role that we step into with our natural 'person'.

We have forgotten that we stand in common law and have unalienable common law rights, and that we may make our own law with the agreement of our fellow man. On using common law in courts, and making sure others don't over step their jurisdictions, the following three seminars are really detailed...
- Sovereignty, Jurisdiction and related subjects (8 hours)
- Motions and related procedure (8 hours)
- Forms and related procedure (8 hours)

It covers the use of the Magna Carta or any other code / law and declarations / affirmations you wish to use and include when standing in common law.

Supporting material; case-law, court records, documents and transcripts, and examples: Foundation | Example | Jurisidiction | Procedure. (1215.org Lawnotes)

If you stand out from under every jurisdiction (out from under every oath, even if only assumed), you stand free and sovereign in common law, to use the law you wish to use in agreement with your fellow man. If another man is trying to apply his laws on you, then he/she is overstepping his jurisdiction, thus causing harm or injury on you (denying your rights).


How they assumed and presumed authority...

As long as the common law exists, the Magna Carta of 1215 is still valid if you choose it to be so, no matter how they try to hide it from you recently when acting under their statutory jurisdictions.

Furthermore, the sovereign Declaration of 1688 was also accepted by the established power, resulting in the statutory Bill of 1689 to guarantee those declared sovereign rights as granted privileges whilst acting under their jurisdiction (with a trade off between the Declared unalienable rights, and the existing statutory obligations).
In the same way, the Declaration of Human Rights (a sovereign Declaration by "the Peoples of the United Nations") of 1948 was later coded into Statutory Acts in each of the jurisdictions of the member Nations, to provide granted privileges in line with the Declaration, but as a trade off between the Declared unalienable rights (clear and outright), and the existing statutory obligations (such as denying those privileges at wartime, or simpler statutory obligations regarding detainment by Policy Enforcement Officers on the entities under its jurisdiction; 'Subject' / 'Citizen' / 'Resident' / 'Alien' etc.).
- Every Declaration that is accept by the established power is coded/written into a Statutory Act / Bill in its jurisdiction to attempt to provide those declared rights to its member under standing (standing under) it. ( Members of a private society since birth )

Indeed they did try to trick us later. They maintained us under their jurisdictions, granted the declared rights back to us as privileges in their Statutory Acts / Bills, and then slowly over hundreds of years, removed bit by bit those granted privileges, giving the illusion that the declaration had been over-turned. But in reality, any Declaration is sovereign and cannot be changed. This is why they have to mirror it with a Statutory Act or Bill etc. after the original Declaration.

EDIT: Removed pointless self reference, and moved a link. + New link.
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