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Searched at work getting f**ked via the back door

Postby The unmutual » Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:33 am

I was recently searched by the police at my place of employment nhs i.t.The police confiscated my medication and have subseqently, on the advice of an nhs health care professional told my employees that these were quote"muscle bulking steroids" no arrest was made havent asked for drugs back.But now after months of paid suspension thay have issued me with a notice to attend there disiplinary hearing.where there case against me amongst other things, basicaly says i was searched and found to be carrying quote"muscle bulking steroids" i have objected very strongly to the inclusion of any accusation of steroid possesion from officers of the law being included in there case.on the basis that any conclusions drawn by there investigations would prejedice any other hearing ie legal if it was to be brought in the future.(no idea where this might get me but sure feels good)The search itself was conducted on an accusation of being in possesion of a 2 inch blade.now if you or i called the police with an accusation of someone carrying a 2 inchblade we would probably be done for wasting police time.not these guys. makes me wonder if there is some common purpose shit at work here. I havent seeked any legal advice as yet and am wondering if i should talk to acas?????
I dont know what my rights are or who can actualy help me .But this seems like a sort of cp collective back door conviction by means of an employement disiplinary hearing.This surely cant be right.I sure would apreciate any advice from you guys.Should i hold out on the not prepared to hear these allegations on basis of prejedicing any legal hearing in the future?If the pigs say im carrying muscle bulking steroids arent thay suppose to arrest me or something.No there not prepared to do that because there not steroids.But they can use there common purpose buddys to have that attached to my employment record.The other accusations thay intend to levy against me at there kangaroo court is being to angry.too angry you have no efin idea.Any help much/advice appreciated.
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Re: Searched at work getting f**ked via the back door

Postby MikeThomas » Wed Mar 18, 2009 5:51 pm

Unmutaul;
Could you explain yourself a bit better please. What was the name of the confiscated medication? Was it precribed by a doctor ? Is it on a 'Banned Substance List' ?

As an NHS employee, are you a member of a Union, as they should be fighting your corner. Also why did you have a 2" blade on you? Was it a 'tool' attached to a keyring or just loose. All these things make a difference as they will be trying to prove some 'intent', and as you mentioned that they accused you of being angry then if they prove the Muscle Building Steroids (Ever heard of Roid Rage) were taken in work hours and the fact you were in possesion of an 'Offensive Weapon' they are out to f*$k you good and proper.

So, more info please !
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Re: Searched at work getting f**ked via the back door

Postby cpt mayhem » Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:19 pm

Steroids are fine, as long as your not dealing, so their might be an issue on the amount in your possession.
?Roid Rage, from carring it in your pocket, are we jumping the gun. ;)
truth is steroids cause Roid Rage in about the same way a parking ticket unfairly issued does.
its more about the character make-up of the person.
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Re: Searched at work getting f**ked via the back door

Postby Sheddy » Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:19 pm

I've done the employment tribunal thing but as an employer not an employee.

Forst, they have to establish th grounds for dismissal. This usually is an accusation backed up by witness statements. In this case, i would consider the most important question to be the ability of the fed to identify the tablets as Steroids and as top their usage. Is he a Chemist? A Doctor? A surgeon? What is his qualification? How did he identify them and what lead him to beleive they wer being used as a muscle building agent?

Were you subjected to a blood, urine or hair test to ascertain whether you had been taking these "drugs" or were merely in possession of them?

Are they illegal? can they be bought over the counter?

Is there anything in your contract of employment that says you cannot be in possession of them?

Why were the Plod called? Why did the Plod have to search you? What were the rounds for the search? Was anything other than the "drugs" found?

Not being funny mate, but proper representation would screw them, then go for constructive dismissal - the fact that the Plod were called to search you is evidence of vicimisation in itself unless you unreasonably refused a search. Were there good grounds for the search? If so, why did you refse the search necessitating the Plod to turn up? How can you be expected to work with opr under a person who calls the Plod on you?

theres a sdhit load more to explore, but are you levelling with us on this? Is there more to the story?
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Re: Searched at work getting f**ked via the back door

Postby The unmutual » Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:17 pm

Name of confiscated medicine aspirin and chest eze tablets both available over the counter not prescribed .
Not a union member.I didnt have a 2inch blade on me that was there accusation to initiate action.(2 inch blades arent offensive weapons anyway)hence the question of why police would even attend.So i was neither in possesion of steroids let alone taking steroids nor in possesion of an offensive weapon neither had i acted in a way that could be construed as having any intent to commit crimes.Yes i have heard of roid rage.Thats why im not prepared to hear accusations of steroid possesion in the context its being handed me ie.the accusation comes from an officer of the law on advice from i beleive an nhs trauma consultant thay took the tablets to a and e for indentification.But it is going to be held in the context of an employment disiplinary hearing.no doubt i would be f***ed if this shite was true.It isnt thats why there was no arrests cautions etc.They didnt get to f*** now there going to spin it out any way thay please and im obliged to listen and accept just whatever the hell there findings happen to be under threat of loss of employment?
There now saying that there not relying on the steroid issue as something that thay are going to use as grounds for dismissal but refuse to stand down the accusations made by 5 0 in the text of the management case.Which brings me back to the crux of my question would this not prejedice any legal representation i might be called to make in the future.I mean there the guys telling me that the police say im in possesion of "muscle bulking" i.e anabolic steroids.The police have to the best of my knowledge not returned the meds.Whos to say there not constructing a case right now. Last time i checked steroids was a class c controlled substance.Why would i agree to hear the allegations in the context there being handed me.Regardless of whether or not steroids being fine as long as im not dealing.whos to say there not constructing a case for dealing.i woundnt put anything past these dellusional fellows after this shit.Sheddy there was no request for a search other than that of the police and when queried about the object cited as being offensive i was totally open and shown it to the manager.Still police called i might add about 4 or 5 hours after the incidence that had caused them concern.Could of sliced up a lot of people in that time had i infact been a hospital working steroid fuelled tooled up slasherman. But im suppose to take there allegations seriously.looks like thats just what i might have to do.I hope that has explained better.
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