More Treason against our Queen - by this Fabian Government
LAYING SIEGE TO THE QUEEN

Should Brown leave the Queen alone?
Sunday July 15,2007
MEMBERS of Parliament will no longer have to swear allegiance to the Queen under constitutional reforms put forward by one of Gordon Brown’s closest advisers.
The blueprint, produced by the Prime Minister’s special adviser Michael Jacobs, would also turn the British into “citizens,” rather than “subjects,” and could even spell the end for
Downing Street last night distanced itself from the controversial ideas, saying there were no plans to adopt them. A spokesman said Mr Jacobs advised the Prime Minister on environmental issues rather than constitutional affairs.
But critics pointed out that Mr Brown had already moved quickly to adopt key parts of the Jacobs plan, including ending the Royal Prerogative and having the Government’s programme laid out by the Prime Minister in the Commons rather than the Queen at the annual state opening of Parliament.
Royal sources said the Queen was already alarmed by the pace of change under the Brown regime.
Royal historian Kenneth Rose, a close friend of the late Queen Mother and Princess Margaret, said there was “a constant pushing of the boundaries of what the Government does and what it deems the Queen doesn’t need to do”.
He added: “All these things treat the Queen with a certain disrespect. It’s offensive to the Queen and it’s intended to be so. She’ll be furious.”
Mr Rose said the changes would also cause the Queen to fear for the future of the Royal Family. “She realises that people will say ‘If the Queen has no constitutional duties, why should she have constitutional privileges?’”
Tory MP Mark Pritchard said there were growing signs of “creeping republicanism” within the Brown Government.
He added: “Aided and abetted by the institutional anti-Britishness and republicanism within the BBC, it appears that at the very heart of Government there is an agenda to downgrade the monarchy to the point where the Queen becomes a bicycling monarch and a tourism trophy, rather than an esteemed and respected head of state.”
Within days of taking office, Mr Brown unveiled far-reaching changes to the constitution, including ending the Royal Prerogative, which gives Prime Ministers, acting on behalf of the Queen, sweeping powers to declare war, sign treaties and dissolve Parliament.
This week he effectively sidelined the Queen’s Speech by announcing the Government’s programme for the next Parliament himself, four months before the state opening. The Prime Minister has also launched a consultation on a “statement of British values” which could eventually lead to a written constitution.
The consultation will be led by Justice Secretary Jack Straw, who is on record as being in favour of a slimmed-down, Scandinavian-style monarchy.
Mr Brown has given little indication of what a written constitution might include but Mr Jacobs, who has been employed by Mr Brown as a special adviser for more than three years, has already outlined one possible scenario downgrading the monarchy. Writing during his time as head of the Left-wing think tank the Fabian Society, he said:
“The modern role of head of state needs to be separated from the historical powers of the monarch.
“In doing this, the constitution can be properly democratised. A written constitution, guaranteeing basic rights and freedoms, would make the British people citizens, not subjects.
“Allegiance to the constitution would then replace the oath of allegiance in Parliament. The Queen’s Speech would be replaced by the Government’s programme, announced in the Commons, not the Lords. The Speaker of the House of Commons could take over the monarch’s power to adjudicate in the event of unclear general election results and to assent formally to legislation.
“Prerogative powers should pass to ministers in Parliament. There could even be a new national anthem.
“Once this is done, it becomes easier to split the remaining personal and public aspects of monarchy.
“New arrangements can be made over issues such as the status of royal property, the state funding of the Royal Family and taxes they pay.
“Anomalies such as the prohibition of Catholics and gender preference in succession can be removed. And it would enable a fundamental examination of the relationship between the Anglican church, the state and the monarch.”
Mr Jacobs, who claimed the changes would strengthen the monarchy in the long term, is one of the new Prime Minister’s closest advisers.
He is widely credited with persuading Mr Brown to put a penny on National Insurance to fund NHS expansion after the 2001 election.
Downing Street last night insisted there were no plans to adopt his ideas on the monarchy. A spokesman said: “Mr Jacobs is an adviser on environmental policy not the constitution.
“Whatever ideas he advanced in a previous job several years ago have no bearing on the Government’s current thinking, nor will they.”
However, royal experts said the moves would add to a growing sense of siege at Buckingham Palace.
Mr Rose said another example of the Government showing disrespect towards the Queen is Gordon Brown’s refusal to pay for repairs to her palaces. Last month it was revealed that they are “crumbling” through lack of funds.
Ministers are refusing to stump up extra cash, even though the Crown Estates made more than £200million profit for the Treasury. Ministers have also drawn up secret plans to downgrade the Privy Council, a key point of contact between monarch and Government.
Mr Rose said the Queen will be in an added quandary because the only person with whom she can discuss Brown’s proposals, her private secretary Sir Robin Janvrin, is about to retire. “This has all come at a difficult time for her.”
Royal author Christopher Wilson said: “The Queen has been horribly upstaged. On the one hand Gordon Brown is perfectly justified in what he is doing but, on the other, the Queen will not like the rug being pulled from under her.” Mr Brown is thought to have used his first Prime Ministerial meeting with the Queen to brief her on some of his constitutional plans. On the day of his appointment he spent almost an hour with her – twice that spent by Tony Blair in his first meeting.
Constitutional expert Lord St John of Fawsley said Mr Brown had been “very courteous”. He added: “He did explain to her what he was trying to do. She is cool. She can see the need for change but it takes her time. She is a cautious person.
“If you wanted to sum up her attitude, it would be, ‘Why can’t you leave well alone?’ but that’s not the motto of this Government.”
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I understand why you do not publish my comments
Have a look at Reality Check by Alan Watt - in it he says "Nothing normal can come out of deviancy". Think about that for a moment. You cannot tinker with a law, with an edict, with a ruling from Brussels because, guess what - it's all part of the same machinery.
If you believe in the Queen then you believe in the tooth fairy. Ask the Queen if she believes in you - you and I are considered to be "useless eaters" and roll on the day when we are chipped, bred for servility, or permanently extinguished because we are taking up too much space.
Have some cohones and publish my comments if you dare!!!
Your efforts are doomed to failure and the people you fight are laughing their socks off. I'm sorry to tell you but you are buying into their illusion that "they" even give a fuck - try a Masonic handshake or the Masonic sign and words of distress "What can a widow's son do?" and you'll get somewhere.
There must be another way, a better way that helps ALL of the people who are presently enslaved. Arguing about the Constitution is not one of them. We have to break free of the prison that to some extent we have allowed to happen because we STOPPED THINKING.
You have it within your power to seek and tell the truth. I wonder why you don't.
Royal Traditions
I am absolutely furious with the present and previous Governments for trying to change the way this country has been run for thousands of years. Our traditions are and should be sacrosanct because that is what makes us proud to be British. As a country we have always been held in high regard around the World for our fairness, sense of justice, common sense and leadership, which other countries have tried to emulate. But sadly not any more!
It is time that our Government, whoever they are begin to represent the people of this Nation and not be on a permanent ego trip for self gratificaiton and personal gain.
Yes, of course, Gordon Brown should leave our Royal Traditions alone, how dare he try and change them!
Gordon Brown's agenda for treason
It is simple. Gordon Brown cannot do anything without a mandate from the people. Can you hear me Gordon?
Fabians and the Monarchy
In a Fabian Society publication on the future of the Monarchy I have seen there was not one word about the Queen's role in guaranteeing Magna Carta and the Bill of Rights 1689. The authors, who include Prof Stephen Haseler of the London Metropolitan University, a well known republican, wrote plenty about 'modernising' the Monarchy, generally downgrading it, having an elected Monarchy etc.
Haseler was/is a member of the Thomas Paine Dining Club of which included former 'Europe' Minister Denis MacShane. For some reason MacShane does not use his real surname which is Polish.
Thomas Paine was involved in both the French and American Revolutions. He sat with the 'Mountain' (Robespierre's group) in the French National Assembly. Paine narrowly avoided the guillotine.
Remember that Fabianism achieves its ends by gradualism -- by permeation and infiltration. Permeation is now known as 'consesnus'.
In Fabian Tract no 1 it is stated 'For the right moment you must wait . . .
But when the time comes you must strike hard, as Fabius did.'
The wily Roman General Fabius Cunctator wore down Hanibal by guerilla tactics and delaying tactics.
On the cover of the Fabian Society leaflet on Regionalisation by 'Regionaliter' (1942) the Fabian Tortoise appears with his motto 'When I strike, I strike hard'.
The Tortoise is not seen much nowadays but the Fabian Wolf in Sheep's Clothing stained glass window commissioned by George Bernard Shaw has just been re-installed at the London School of Economics (2006). Blair was present at the ceremony.
‘Fabians appeared in so many desirable liberal (and cultural) connections that they could scarcely be believed to be subversive of private property or of liberty.’ Margaret, wife of Fabian economist G.D.H. Cole. 1943.
I have called our Queen a traitor!
I have personally called our Queen a Traitor even though this was against my beliefs. I did this for a specific reason, to create a stir to invoke both sides of the story, and that it succeeded in doing.
The disease in this country is not the royal family it is solely our government. Now some will argue that she has not done her job properly and that may be the case but we cannot escape the fact that the Fabian government in power has absolutely no respect for the Queen. They have successively removed power after power from her, albeit illegal nether the less they have done it, and continue to do so.
This quite plainly is Treason and it is about time the people of this country realized this fact and started to do something about it. What do we do? Cut their sole life line, simply stop paying them money.
Now is the time to form a peoples party with the true allegiance to our Monarch and the people of this country.
The truth is simple, mankind makes it complicated
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